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Wednesday, February 5, 2025

Trump proposes to make Gaza “the Riviera of the Middle East!”

I kid you not. No, really, the Riviera of the Middle East. Writing in today’s New York Times, Peter Baker opens with:

President Trump basked as Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of Israel praised his “willingness to think outside the box.” But when it came to Gaza, Mr. Trump’s thinking on Tuesday was so far outside the box that it was not clear he even knew there was a box.

Mr. Trump’s announcement that he intends to seize control of Gaza, displace the Palestinian population and turn the coastal enclave into “the Riviera of the Middle East” was the kind of thing he might have said to get a rise on “The Howard Stern Show” a decade or two ago. Provocative, intriguing, outlandish, outrageous — and not at all presidential.

The idea built on Trump during the day:

Indeed, it seemed to be an idea that grew by the hour as the day went on. In the morning, before Mr. Netanyahu arrived at the White House to meet with Mr. Trump, aides to the president told reporters that it would take 15 years or more to rebuild Gaza after the destructive war between Israel and Hamas and that it would require working with partners in the region to find Palestinians a place to live temporarily.

By the afternoon, as he signed some executive orders, Mr. Trump told reporters that Palestinians would have “no alternative” but to move out of Gaza because it was just “a demolition site.” A little later, he welcomed Mr. Netanyahu to the Oval Office and went even further, saying he wanted “all of them” to leave and that Gazans should “be thrilled” to live someplace better that he expected Egypt and Jordan to provide.

Then at a formal news conference with Mr. Netanyahu in the East Room on Tuesday evening, he took it the final step, declaring not just that Palestinians should leave but that “the U.S. will take over the Gaza Strip” and rebuild it into a prosperous economic destination.

This was not a temporary takeover, but “a long-term ownership position” and he made clear that he had no intention of turning Gaza back over to the Palestinians but would make it a place “not for a specific group of people but for everybody.”

What that meant exactly, he did not say. Nor did he say how this would be accomplished. Even he seemed to grasp how wild the whole thing sounded. “I don’t mean to be cute, I don’t mean to be a wise guy,” he said at one point. “But the Riviera of the Middle East!”

As you might imagine, the idea was not greeted with universal joy and hosannas:

Others saw nothing cute or wise about what amounted to “ethnic cleansing by another name,” as Senator Chris Van Hollen, Democrat of Maryland, put it.

“The notion that the United States is going to take over Gaza, including with the deployment of U.S. troops, isn’t just extreme, it’s completely detached from reality,” said Halie Soifer, chief executive of the Jewish Democratic Council of America. “In what world is this happening?”

Khaled Elgindy, a visiting scholar at Georgetown University’s Center for Contemporary Arab Studies, said Mr. Trump’s comments were “truly bizarre and incoherent,” raising more questions than answers.

But, just for the sheer hell of it, let’s set those reservations aside, I mean, the idea of forcibly relocating the Palestinians, it’s, it’s,...it’s batshit bonkers. But let’s suspend reality for a minute or three.

World Island?

What could we do with a Riviera of the Middle East? Consider the idea my friend Zeal proposed, and pursued for a number of years (and I helped him):

He proposed to transform Governors Island, a 172 acre former Coast Guard base in New York Harbor, into World Island, which he described as a “permanent world’s fair for a world that’s permanently fair”. Think of it as a combination of the best features of the United Nations, Disney World, a kid’s rumpus room, the trading floor at the Chicago Board of Trade, the Bibliothèque nationale de France, and the Japanese exhibit at the 1893 World’s Fair in Chicago. It would cost $25 billion or so and be planted with orchids. Why orchids? Beauty aside, they’re an early warning system for climate change, when the orchids go, we’re not going to be far behind.

I met Zeal in his office a couple days later and he explained.

Governors Island had been a Coast Guard base until the end of the century. Senator Moynihan convinced the government to was sell the island to GIPEC (Governors Island Preservation and Education Corporation), jointly owned by New York State and New York City. GIPEC took possession for a couple dollars rather than a price at market rate. Can you imagine the market rate for a 172 acres of developable property in New York Harbor?

Gaza is considerably larger than 172 acres, but then what Zeal envisioned for World Island was a bit much for that site. But in Gaza, in Gaza there’d be room. And, when you consider the thousands of years of conflict that has bedeviled that land, it would be the perfect place to realize Zeal’s vision. Here’s the executive summary of the proposal we submitted to GIPEC: Governors Island as a World Resource Center. Here’s slide presentation that you can scroll through.

World Island, a Global Commons by Bill Benzon

Trump's cultural policy, a speculative proposal 

What will actually happen? Who knows? I certainly don’t, and neither does Donald Trump. But you should read Tyler Cowen’s recent post: Trumpian policy as cultural policy. It’s quite provocative. Here’s a bit:

The Trump administration has issued a blizzard of Executive Orders, and set many other potential changes in the works. They might rename Dulles Airport (can you guess to what?). A bill has been introduced to add you-know-who to Mount Rushmore. There is DOGE, and the ongoing attempt to reshape federal employment. [...]

Imagine you hold a vision where the (partial) decline of America largely is about culture. After all, we have more people and more natural resources than ever before. Our top achievements remain impressive. But is the overall culture of the people in such great shape? The culture of government and public service? Interest in our religious organizations? The quality of local government in many states? You don’t have to be a diehard Trumper to have some serious reservations on such questions.

We also see countries, such as China, that have screwed-up policies but have grown a lot, in large part because of a pro-business, pro-learning, pro-work culture. Latin America, in contrast, did lots of policy reforms but still is somewhat stagnant.

OK, so how might you fix the culture of America? You want to tell everyone that America comes first. That America should be more masculine and less soft. That we need to build. That we should “own the libs.” I could go on with more examples and details, but this part of it you already get.

So imagine you started a political revolution and asked the simple question “does this policy change reinforce or overturn our basic cultural messages?” Every time the policy or policy debate pushes culture in what you think is the right direction, just do it. Do it in the view that the cultural factors will, over some time horizon, surpass everything else in import.

Simply pass or announce or promise such policies. Do not worry about any other constraints.

You don’t even have to do them!

After this that and the other:

To be clear, this hypothesis does not not not require any kind of cohesive elite planning the whole strategy (though there are elites planning significant parts of what Trump is doing). It suffices to have a) conflicting interest groups, b) competition for Trump’s attention, and c) Trump believing cultural issues are super-important, as he seems to. There then results a spontaneous order, in which the visible strategy looks just like someone intended exactly this as a concrete plan.

We live in interesting times.

15 comments:

  1. Your sister here: I read the entire piece. What Cowen presents is a sanitized version of what is happening. Trump wants to invoke fear or adoration. And real people are suffering significant uncertainty and potentially life changing consequences. And other people are basking in the assumption of winner-take-all rewards. Cowen's version reminds me of when a commentator on January 6th said the acts were only "performative". Well, that conclusion looks completely inane now, doesn't it? Though I thought it was void of any real insight into the source of motivations by people willing to aggressively fight their point to capture the stage. "Culture" the way Cowen sanitizes his discussion is completely removed from the blood and guts propelling the action. Please don't slip into such academic garbage, Larry. Cowen's piece is better regarded as a case of "Don't be fooled by the veneer of 'culture' when thinking for yourself about wielding power in
    breaking waves of uncertainty, let loose for somebody else to suffer."

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    1. I think you misunderstand what Cowen's trying to do. He's certainly not trying to justify Trump's actions, or to minimize or dismiss them. He's trying to understand why Trump's doing all these crazy things. What's the logic?

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    2. Oh, I understand very well what he's trying to do. Trump's logic is energized by his gut impulses, gut responses, gut intuitions. And to write about his motivations without explicitly addressing the mechanism of how such visceral reading of the moment and opportunity is exactly the kind of theorizing that leaves people surprised down the road when the next abominable event occurs. Culture? The culture in Trump's case is driven by blood and guts and heat for the next fight. And whatever the "issues" are that MAGA references is only the window dressing -- the "make nice" cover for what is driving the agenda.

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  2. Me again: here's this, as one example: https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/federal-health-workers-terrified-dei-website-publishes-list-targets-rcna190711?cid=sm_npd_nn_fb_ma&fbclid=IwY2xjawIQeaZleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHVvERSwOkKESYa_Wtco7f3bBwUafFyDuqvwsrqEBZANb5Gl4CIe6QqEZHg_aem_s4lTpEffU3MLsb7eJkPqyQ&_branch_match_id=1242969078416722961&utm_source=facebook&utm_campaign=NBC%20News&utm_medium=social&_branch_referrer=H4sIAAAAAAAAAwXBSw6CMBQAwNu4BKOo0YQY0Cr1X0ANbEiLr4KUX4sWN57dmazrGrUwzYqlFWhl0KYxRF4VZhjO8bCzoh1hS85SkT9srKNR%2F6IaE6CxAM9%2FO6ONYAT3R%2BK43u2D%2FECfiz0KIprcu7Se8TFz9ZXyzXf9bj9ayRa5sXNik62wVhimpEWx90wolImyRNggzq%2Fj40GxGeyKS%2Fslg58EDlLm1TNhstYKpL3KZF3CH8Rf6qq5AAAA

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  3. A bit late for Vacillation, false equivelance, bothsiderism qnd appeasement by rhetorical flourishes. imo ymmv. Especially with language in the chopping block.

    Bill, please... speculators are what makes for Gaza Rivera'.
    Tyler Cowan playing speculation is NOT worth a nano second. See below
    "Trump's cultural policy, a speculative proposal  

    "What will actually happen? Who knows? I certainly don’t, and neither does Donald Trump. But you should read Tyler Cowen’s recent post: Trumpian policy as cultural policy. It’s quite provocative. Here’s a bit:"... "There then results a spontaneous order, in which the visible strategy looks just like someone intended exactly this as a concrete plan.".

    Bill, do you really think this is just spontaneous order?

    The Cantaloupe Caligula is going to dismantle your cherished... language.

    "The List of Trump’s Forbidden Words That Will Get Your Paper Flagged at NSF"

    By Matt Novak
    Published February 5, 2025

    "It's fascism, plain and simple.

    "Every federal agency in the U.S. is currently trying to figure out how to purge forbidden words from documents posted online, in a desperate attempt to comply with President Donald Trump’s executive order to purge “DEI” from every facet of American life. And nowhere is that effort more bizarre than the National Science Foundation, which is currently combing through websites and research papers for a long list of words that include “female,” “disability,” and “LGBT,” among a host of others."
    ...
    https://gizmodo.com/the-list-of-trumps-forbidden-words-that-will-get-your-paper-flagged-at-nsf-2000559661

    "John Q 
    02.05.25 at 3:12 am
    "It’s important to observe that this outcome was the result of a specific choice made by a plurality of US voters (along with a large group of abstainers) last November. The Democrats, while problematic in all sorts of ways offered a more-or-less stable democracy. The voters, with the evidence of the attempted coup in 2021 before them, voted for fascism. Whether this will produce collapse or a very unappealing kind of renewal remains to be seen. But there is no going back to US democracy as we have understood it until now."
    ...
    https://crookedtimber.org/2025/02/04/53701/#comment-839869

    SD.

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    1. I'll begrudgingly revise my NOT above to...

      I agree, from the outside and visible actions "I [Tyler Cowan] think of Trumpian policy, first and foremost, as elevating cultural policy above all else."... as a means to an end we the people don't know, and haven't got a say in, potentially leading to a non- election of Musk the Maxi Mango Musellini, or worse.
      Fixed. SD.

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    2. "Bill, do you really think this is just spontaneous order?"

      We are a LONG way from seeing how this is going to play out. Ben Wittes pointed out in a podcast (on #DogShirtTV recently) that it's very easy for Trump and his minions to issue a bunch of orders and this and that and cause general chaos, which is cruel. That can be done quickly. It takes time to mount legal challenges. We don't know how that will play out, though we do know that the Supreme Court is stacked in favor of Trump.

      What we don't know is how long, if ever, it will take for Trump's many supporters to realize that the things he's doing are hurting them, not helping them. Here I'm thinking particularly of those tariffs.

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    3. Also, we are a long way from knowing how the Trump/Elon bromance is going to work out. And, as you know, Bannon is strongly anti-Elon.

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  4. Bill said "I kid you not. No, really..."!
    Have a chat w claude, but new rules - you may NOT use the word "systemic"!

    Cory Doctorow today.
    "Once you understand the mirror world, you start to realize that many right wing conspiracists could have been directed into productive movements, if only they'd understood that their problems were with systems, not sinister individuals (this is why Trump has ordered a purge of any federally funded research that contains the word "systemic"):

    https://mamot.fr/@Lazarou@mastodon.social/113943287435897828

    "This also explains why the "tropes" of right wing conspiratorialism sometimes echo left wing, radical thought. 
    ...
    From "MLMs are the mirror-world version of community organizing"
    https://pluralistic.net/2025/02/05/power-of-positive-thinking/#the-socialism-of-fools

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  5. You guys might want to real Cowen's recent post on USAID. He things some changes need to be made, but for the most part it does good work. https://marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2025/02/deep-research-considers-the-costs-and-benefits-of-us-aid.html

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    1. Given Musk's failure to comply with regulations about Space x, how can there be any confidence that identifying USAID is the only target for adjustment given all the stolen data acquired in taking it over?https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/17/technology/elon-musk-spacex-national-security-reporting.html

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  6. Thanks Bill.
    Technically true; "we are a long way from knowing how the Trump/Elon bromance is going to work out."

    In practice I disagree.

    Trump & Musk are transactionalists. What do you think Musk thinks of Trump & v a v? Trump & Musk have had a yelling match at Mar a Lago. And "Trump asserted his power over Musk, mocking the tech billionaire for sticking around for so long. ... “Elon won’t go home. I can’t get rid of him,” Trump said Wednesday. “Until I don’t like him.”
    https://newrepublic.com/post/188412/trump-humiliates-elon-musk-house-republicans

    Who is Ozymandis & Dr Manhattan in this faustian world splitting bifurcation? Does Elon have a long game ala Ozymandis, to emotionally stroke Trump and his minions only for Musk to have quietly outflanked RepubMAGA, using their obvious milquetoast dispositions to leapfrog the lot of them AGAINST and WITHOUT ANY pretense of democracy? The GoP will the switch the don and kiss Musk's ring. Or will
    the Mango Mussolini morph into Cantaloupe Caligula and kill off Musk?

    First they came for... not you or me. But! Remember Bill, the words you use will potentially see YOU flagged and reviewed. I searched this site and found 2 of your articles specifically transgressing (embedded pun) the "The List of Trump’s Forbidden Words That Will Get Your Paper Flagged at NSF" ( see list at Gizmodo Matt Novak February 5, 2025.)

    I'd love to see you and claude have a 'conversation' about and with and without the new list of words which will flag scientists and others.

    ! Since November 2024 Musk's wealth has increased by $156 BILLION. @peterbakernyt
    So Musk has increased his spending potential (and may reverse but I doubt it) compared to USAID budget approx 4x in 3 months.
    A human has received 4x manna than than the humans needing support. Not good.

    "USAID staff will be put on leave starting on Friday" ... "The agency, which provides humanitarian aid to more than 100 countries, employs 10,000 people worldwide. Two-thirds of those people work overseas, according to the Congressional Research Service.

    "USAID, founded in 1961, has a budget of around $40bn (£32.25bn) per year, amounting to roughly 0.6% of federal spending, according to official figures.

    "Musk, the CEO of Tesla and Space X, has suggested USAID should be shut down entirely, as it is "beyond repair".

    "Many have cautioned that closing the agency's doors would have devastating effects on vulnerable populations across the world.
    ...
    "USAID's activities range from providing prosthetic limbs to soldiers injured in Ukraine, to clearing landmines and containing the spread of Ebola in Africa.
    ...
    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cx253xjnxrmo

    The above, as it is enacted as a cliff, will see humans die. And set a space for despots and the deranged to make more misery. Oh yes, for sure, like the #2 war, it will be over one day. Bit during the rise and fall, many many people will be harmed.

    A heart surgeon trained in the US went back to India opened a hospital for heart surgery. He got the running costs to total cost down to 22%. Of course there is administration waste. Yet dumping in a day whole life saving programs causes death. Burn the village to save a village. Like gaza. Such an opportunity to increase gdp and wealth for a few.

    It doesn't have to be this way.
    Until it is. Then the came for...
    SD.

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  7. Keep hitting. Cavear Emperor.
    Kill courts.
    Kill news.
    Kill language.
    Kills people.

    Trump signs executive order imposing US sanctions on ICC, accusing it of ‘abusing its power’

    Trump calls for ‘termination’ of 60 Minutes in fresh attack on US media. President also makes baseless claim that USAid money has been illicitly funding news organisations

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  8. Then they came for them.
    Dictator level doxxing.

    "Elon Musk has taken control of government employees’ private data by having his cronies illegally install a commercial server at the Office of Personnel Management.

    Musk and his handpicked associates at the fake “Department of Government Efficiency” are using their ill-gotten access to control federal databases containing Social Security numbers, home addresses, medical histories, and other sensitive personal information, according to journalists Caleb Ecarma and Judd Legum at Musk Watch.

    Many of these Musk staffers are young people between 19 and 24, such as software engineer Akash Bobba, an undergraduate student at University of California, Berkeley, and 2022 high school graduate Edward Coristine. At Musk’s direction, these inexperienced underlings now have access to the private information of every federal employee, and even people who have merely applied to federal jobs.

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/elon-musk-makes-most-terrifying-183451530.html

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