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Thursday, April 30, 2026

A Quick Ramble: Computational Compressibility (order in the universe), Religion & Signaling, Silicon Valley vs. Pope Leo [+Latour]

I’m thinking there’s a relationship between computational compressibility (as an index of order in the universe) and my current interest in religion, which is what the other two items are about.

Computational Compressibility and order in the universe

I’ve been particularly pleased by my recent working paper: On Method: Computational Compressibility in Complex Natural and Cultural Phenomena. I’m not quite sure why I find it so pleasing. That it crosses disciplines, that’s nice: weather, microbiology, chess (AI), finance economics (asset pricing), film studies (Hollywood Economics), and cultural evolution (Macroanalysis, 19th century novel). But it’s the specific mode of the argument; it’s about description, about what kinds of things exist.

I began by framing the discussion in terms of Stephen Wolfram’s distinction between computational reducibility and computational irreducibility. I think we’ve got to look at that distinction in terms of Miriam Yevick’s 1975 distinction between holographic or Fourier logic and sequential logic. I think Wolfram’s notion of computational reducibility implies Yevick’s sequential logic. As far as I can tell, her notion of holographic logic doesn’t register with respect to Wolfram’s distinction. But it may be that what I’m calling computational compressibility (within the realm of irreducibility) resonates with her notion of holographic logic.

A random system would of course be irreducible, but that is an extreme case. The systems I looked at in that paper are not random, but the order they exhibit allows them to occupy only a relatively small region of the state space potentially open to them. Given appropriate data about the behavior of the system, that region can be identified through a computational process. Thus they are computationally compressible. The phenomenon of computational compressibility indicates order, but order of a kind that’s different from reducible order. Generative order? 

Religion & Signaling

Glenn Loury has a recent video where he distinguishes between what we might call the propositional content of an utterance and its signal value. Explains that at some length in a recent lecture he gave at Stanford, Self-Censorship, Social Information, and the Conditions of Public Reason. In the lecture he examines three cases: race in America, academic life, and Israel and Gaza. His point is that in public discourse on these topics (and others) the signal value of what one is saying often eclipses the propositional value of one’s assertions. This often results in self-censorship where a person withholds their (propositional) views for fear of signally the wrong values.

Thus, in racial discourse:

A key question in this discourse is why racial inequality persists. In this domain speech is saturated with moral meanings. Claims about inequality, education, crime, family structure, or historical responsibility are rarely heard simply as attempts to explain social outcomes. They are taken also as signals of moral orientation—of sympathy or indifference, solidarity or hostility, compassion or disdain. For many audiences, answers to that question relying on structural causes are regarded more favorably than accounts emphasizing cultural factors. Speakers adapt accordingly—many by holding their tongues.

I think lots of discourse is like that. It seems to me that much religious discourse is like this. The conservative Christian arguments against biological evolution never made much sense to me as propositional assertion, nor did the accompanying belief about the age of the earth, but as signaling, those beliefs make more sense.

I'm thinking this signaling business is about coordination, about establishing a rock-bottom level of interpersonal coordination, of common knowledge. I need to think about this some more. 

Addendum, May 2, 2026: This post about Bruno Latour's conception of modes of existence is relevant here, each with it own “felicity conditions,” as he calls them.

Silicon Valley vs. Pope Leo

I’ve only recently learned that Pope Leo XIV has decided to make AI a central concern of his papacy. Given that I think that the common Silicon Valley view of AI is idolatrous, or at best straddles the border, I’m wondering if we’re going to see a grand debate and battle between the Pope and Silicon Valley apologists. When I put the question to Claude, here’s how it responded:

Your instinct is well-founded, and Leo XIV has already moved aggressively on this front. Let me lay out what's emerged so far.

Who he is and what he's signaling

Leo XIV — born Robert Prevost in Chicago, the first American pope — identified AI as a central challenge from his very first formal address to the cardinals after his election in May 2025. His choice of the name Leo was itself a signal: Pope Leo XIII confronted the industrial revolution with Rerum Novarum (1891), defending workers' rights and the common good. By taking that name, the new pope announced that the Church would face today's technological upheaval with similar clarity.

The specific critique — and it maps closely onto your "idolatry" framing

This is where it gets interesting for your purposes. In what has been called a programmatic document on AI for World Communications Day, Leo warned that "behind this enormous invisible force that involves us all, there are only a handful of companies — those whose founders have recently been presented as the creators of the 'Person of the Year 2025.'" He expressed "serious concern regarding the oligopolistic control of algorithmic and artificial intelligence systems capable of subtly shaping behaviors and even rewriting human history."

That last phrase — rewriting human history, including the history of the Church — is remarkable. He's naming a power claim that goes beyond economic disruption.

His core argument is that "the challenge is not technological, but anthropological. Safeguarding faces and voices ultimately means safeguarding ourselves." He described face and voice as "sacred," given by God, "the constitutive element of every genuine encounter."

At a Vatican gathering that included representatives from Google, OpenAI, Anthropic, IBM, Meta, and Palantir, he said: "The person is not a system of algorithms: he or she is a creature, relationship, mystery."

The "data is not wisdom" theme

He has repeatedly insisted that "the ability to access vast amounts of data and information should not be confused with the ability to derive meaning and value from it," and that "authentic wisdom has more to do with recognizing the true meaning of life than with the availability of data." This is a direct counter to the implicit epistemology of Silicon Valley — the notion that intelligence is fundamentally information processing, that more data equals more understanding.

Where this connects to your book

Your framing of the dominant Silicon Valley attitude as idolatrous is theologically precise in a way that Leo XIV would likely recognize. The classic definition of idolatry isn't crude statue-worship — it's the attribution of ultimate value and salvific power to something that is not God. When figures like Altman, Musk, or Kurzweil speak of AI as the path to immortality, the transcendence of human limitation, the solution to death — that's structurally idolatrous in the theological sense. It substitutes a human artifact for the divine.

Leo has the resources of the entire tradition of Catholic social teaching to bring to bear on this — not just as ethics but as a rival anthropology. The Church's claim that the person is "creature, relationship, mystery" is not compatible with the claim that the person is, at bottom, a computational process that can be replicated, extended, or superseded by a sufficiently powerful machine.

Whether this becomes a genuine face-off rather than parallel talking depends on whether Silicon Valley feels the need to respond. So far, the tech executives seem to be treating Vatican engagement as a reputational opportunity — showing up in Rome, being photographed, nodding about "human dignity" — without conceding much. The more interesting question is whether Leo pushes beyond dialogue into something more like confrontation. The Rerum Novarum precedent suggests he might: that encyclical didn't merely express concern about the industrial revolution, it made specific demands.

5 comments:

  1. A lot of -bility goes a long way, but never to the end. . . ding! ding! ding! -- unbecoming again!

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  2. Disgustulous
    That's the invocation for the spell of Disgust. I feel it everytime I drop into DP's place.
    Does it make the spelled upon disgusting? Or reveal the Disgustulous of the spellee?



    Does god prune?

    BB; "I'm thinking this signaling business is about coordination, about establishing a rock-bottom level of interpersonal coordination, of common knowledge. I need to think about this some more."

    The ai replied; "His [the Pope's] core argument is that "the challenge is not technological, but anthropological.Safeguarding faces and voices ultimately means safeguarding ourselves." He described face and voice as "sacred," given by God, "the constitutive element of every genuine encounter."

    Signalling in groups is The Encounter - church services, political rallies, weakly,  groups of drinkers at the pub - serves as rock bottom hard wiring of "common" knowledge - read: my message - is the best pruner and reweighting and 'the network becomes sparser but more structured and refined."

    So when groups gather to hear a speaker with many susceptible humans, accepting signalling is say zero shot (bad analogy) - the feeling of in-group humans (loved) bypasses existing doubts or 'knowledge or information, whereas reading the same dies not - no seen network of similar humans to reinforce, and personal group signalling - I'm having a chat with friends - somewhere between zero shot and you've permanently pruned and rewired my common knowledge from information to belief.

    Even Trump, NYT, Murdoch or Musk at Xitter can't magically bring about common knowledge.

    Not for want of trying....
    Graham & Andrejevic "A computational analysis of potential algorithmic bias on platform X during the 2024 US election"
    ... shows in Figure 1, view counts of Musk's tweets, (to me an unbelievable) THREE & A HALF BILLION views.

    The common knowledge for the pope is already common knowledge, it is just that many do not code belief in god. Or church.
    Elon at Xitter invoked 3.5 billion views. The bible? "... in 2023, Bible Societies across the world distributed 152 million copies of Scriptures. These comprise 24.2 million full Bibles, 9.2 million New Testaments, and 118.6 million Scripture portions or selections."
    https://ubscp.org/152-million-scriptures-distributed-globally-in-2023/

    The printed word, the conversation or tweet, is no where near as powerful as a group meeting. And when combined with magic ritual, blood and bodies of the long dead diety, the churches are masters at bypassing knowledge- common knowledge - engendering belief, effectively pruning and setting weights of mental models in stone, impervious to updates.

    By "what we call a pruning model: it starts out full, and then it becomes streamlined and optimized.”. From...

    27-APR-2026
    "Do memories form on a blank slate?
    "ISTA researchers reveal how thought networks in the hippocampus develop after birth
    Peer-Reviewed Publication
    INSTITUTE OF SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY AUSTRIA
    ...
    "The results: Early on, the CA3 network is very dense, and the connections appear random. As the animals mature, however, the configuration shifts—the network becomes sparser but more structured and refined.

    “This discovery was quite surprising,” says Jonas. “Intuitively, one might expect that a network grows and becomes denser over time. Here, we see the opposite. It follows what we call a pruning model: it starts out full, and then it becomes streamlined and optimized.”
    ...
    https://www.eurekalert.org/news-releases/1125692

    Graham, Timothy & Andrejevic, Mark (2024) A computational analysis of potential algorithmic bias on platform X during the 2024 US election
    https://eprints.qut.edu.au/253211/

    Any comment Bill?
    Useful, useless, wrong? A twinge? A serendipitous thought?
    Cheers,
    SD

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    1. BB... "this signaling business is about coordination, about establishing a rock-bottom level of interpersonal coordination," which some call "cognitive warfare".

      So for good measure, here is China's Ministry of State Security (MSS) (Propaganda department) attempting to... "establishing a rock-bottom level of interpersonal coordination'... via
      " configuration shifts—the network becomes sparser but more structured and refined." ("Do memories form on a blank slate?" above.)

      "This constitutes a form of cognitive warfare, aimed at fostering a prevailing mindset among young people and embedding passive or defeatist attitudes across one or even two generations, thereby exerting a profound impact on a country's development," Li Wei, a research fellow and security expert at the China Institutes of Contemporary International Relations, told the Global Times on Tuesday. 

      As China's development has raised people's living standards, it has also created conditions in which some younger individuals may adopt a "lying flat" mindset, providing an opening for such narratives to take hold. If this way of thinking spreads among the youth, it could influence the next generation and perpetuate this social pattern, thereby achieving the aim of weakening us, Li said."
      https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202604/1360009.shtml
      SD

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    2. Another example of group meeting in person to effect a belief and action towards a shared goal...
      "Like a mighty wave of humanity, the crowd surged to its feet, and in a shout that shook the building and echoed down the street to the thousands who waited there, they gave the required pledge."
      Mind altering.

      Currently...
      "Zohran is right that Milwaukee’s sewer socialists made significant improvements in the lives of working people. At the same time, however, they always focused on building up workers’ organized strength in mass unions and the Socialist Party. As party leader Victor Berger put it, “We must have a moral, physical and intellectual strengthening of the proletariat, before all things.”
      A sense of this can be gleaned from the Milwaukee Free Press’s story about the speech Berger gave at the election night rally when the socialists won the 1910 mayoral race:
      Mr. Berger stepped forward, and a hush fell upon the audience as he began to speak. “I want to ask every man and woman in this audience to stand up here and now enter a solemn pledge to do everything in our power to help the men whom the people have chosen to fulfill their duty,” said Mr. Berger. Like a mighty wave of humanity, the crowd surged to its feet, and in a shout that shook the building and echoed down the street to the thousands who waited there, they gave the required pledge.
      One of the core differences between the socialists and even the best of progressives was that the latter were not consistently oriented toward building bottom-up organizations. The Milwaukee Socialists’ rank-and-file political machine, combined with their leadership of the state’s entire organized labor movement, provided City Hall with the power it needed to drive through legislation and shape public opinion.
      With Zohran delivering the goods, excellently communicating this to the public, and remaining very popular, is a focus more on bottom-up organizing actually necessary? Yes, for four key reasons.
      ...
      https://www.laborpolitics.com/p/why-hasnt-zohran-done-more-to-boost

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  3. Common knowledge emerges from a null set too. Dangerous.

    "Power Lies Trembling
    A three-book review on the game theory of political power
    Richard Ngo
    Feb 22, 2025

    "everyone else’s predictions about everyone else’s… about who will win. Once the balance starts tipping one way, it will quickly accelerate. And so each side’s key priority is making themselves the Schelling point for coordination via managing public information (i.e. information that everyone knows everyone else has) about what’s happening. (This can be formally modeled as a Keynesian beauty contest. Much more on this in follow-up posts.)
    Singh calls the process of creating self-fulfilling common knowledgemaking a fact. I find this a very useful term, which also applies to more mundane situations—e.g. taking the lead in a social context can make a fact that you’re now in charge. Indeed, one of the most interesting parts of Singh’s book was a description of how coups can happen via managing the social dynamics of meetings of powerful people (e.g. all the generals in an army). People rarely want to be the first to defend a given side, especially in high-stakes situations. So if you start the meeting with a few people confidently expressing support for a coup, and then ask if anyone objects, the resulting silence can make the fact that everyone supports the coup. This strategy can succeed even if almost all the people in the meeting oppose the coup—if none of them dares to say so in the meeting, it’s very hard to rally them afterwards against what’s now become the common-knowledge default option.
    One of Singh’s case studies hammers home how powerful meetings are for common knowledge creation. In 1978, essentially all the"
    https://www.mindthefuture.info/p/power-lies-trembling



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