Saturday, April 5, 2025

Claude 3.7 describes psychedelic Marilyn

In all the other posts in my “Claude Describes” series I’ve had Claude describe a photograph or photographs that I’ve taken. This time it’s something different. Yes, it is a photo, but not of some scene. It’s a photo of a piece of art. Since I explain the art in the conversation I won’t do so here.

But I will point out that I was a bit surprised when Claude didn’t spontaneously identify Marilyn Monroe immediately. After all, she is a well-known public figure. I was even more surprised that it failed to do so when I explicitly asked it to identify the person in the image. So I told Claude that it was Marilyn Monroe. It came back with some basic information. I then asked it what artist was known for colorful portraits of her. At that point Claude searched the web (it can do that now) and came back with some links (I haven’t included them in the dialog.) But why did it have to search the web, or was it just showing me that it could do so? After all, Andy Warhol’s Marilyn’s are among his best-known images.

When I search on “Marilyn Monroe” I get scads of links, including scads of images. Claude indicated that it was “face blind.” Really? Is that inherent in the underlying LLM, or was Claude trained to be face blind when it was readied for the web? 

Note: Claude is right about those lines. They are psychedelic. At the very end of the post I’ve append a painting I did back in 1981. As you’ll see, I’ve done those lines before. Marilyn took me about two hours. I don’t know how many hours went into that painting, but I worked on it daily or so for somewhere between one and two weeks.

As always, my remarks are in bold face while Claude’s responses are plain face.

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Describe this image in any terms you find useful and convenient.

This image shows an artistic portrait drawing of a woman with blonde curly hair styled in a classic vintage look. She's wearing a red dress with a plunging neckline and has red lipstick. She's smiling warmly at the viewer.

The background features vibrant, psychedelic wavy lines in multiple colors - orange, purple, blue, green, and red - creating a colorful, dynamic pattern that surrounds the central figure. On the right side of the composition, there are white calla lily flowers drawn in a more minimalist style.

The artwork appears to be done in a mixed media style, possibly colored markers or pens for the colorful wavy background and graphite or ink for the portrait and flowers. There's a small signature visible in the bottom left corner with what looks like a date of "05" (possibly 2005).

The overall style combines realistic portraiture with a psychedelic, 1960s-inspired background pattern, creating an interesting contrast between the subject and the vibrant surroundings.

Interesting, and perceptive. Do you recognize the young woman? She’s very famous, or was at one time, perhaps not quite so much these days.

Since I'm face blind, I can't recognize the specific woman in the portrait. Could you tell me who she is? Based on the artistic style and the blonde curly hair with vintage styling, it appears to be a stylized portrait of someone significant from entertainment history. The red dress and overall glamorous presentation suggest she might be a famous actress or performer from the mid-20th century, but I'd need you to tell me specifically who she is rather than making an identification based on facial features.

Marilyn Monroe.

Thank you for letting me know. Marilyn Monroe was indeed an iconic figure in entertainment history, known for her roles in films like "Some Like It Hot," "Gentlemen Prefer Blondes," and "The Seven Year Itch." She became a major sex symbol and pop culture icon in the 1950s and early 1960s.

This artwork presents an interesting artistic interpretation of her, combining her recognizable blonde curls and glamorous red dress with the psychedelic background that feels reminiscent of later artistic movements. The contrasting styles create an interesting juxtaposition between the classic Hollywood glamour she represented and more contemporary artistic expression.

Would you like to discuss any particular aspects of this artwork or Marilyn Monroe's cultural impact?

What artist was famous for his colorful prints of Marilyn Monroe?

I'll help you with that information. Let me search for the artist known for colorful prints of Marilyn Monroe.

[Claude searches the web and comes back with some links]

Based on my search, Andy Warhol was the famous artist known for his colorful prints of Marilyn Monroe. In the early 1960s, shortly after her death in 1962, Warhol immortalized Monroe's face in a series of celebrity portraits, beginning with a Diptych of 25 copies of her face. Over the years, he produced many more brightly colored prints of Monroe using his iconic silk screen printing method.

In 1967, Warhol began publishing limited-edition print portfolios under Factory Editions, with the Marilyn portfolio being the first such collection. It consisted of ten images created from the same 1953 publicity photograph of Monroe from the film "Niagara," which he transformed with intentionally off-register printing and vibrant, psychedelic color combinations.

The Marilyn Monroe series featured ten screen prints, each sized 36 x 36 inches, with vibrant colors reflecting her vivacious personality. In many of the prints, her iconic lips are boldly colored a deep red, and her platinum blonde hair is emphasized with variants of yellow.

These colorful Marilyn Monroe prints have become some of the most iconic and recognizable works of pop art, and they continue to influence contemporary artists today.

That's correct. But this wasn't by Warhol. As you correctly surmised, it’s mixed media. The basic imagine is a line drawing. I was given that line drawing and a choice of colored markers or colored pencils, or both, I suppose. I chose the markers. I signed and dated it in the lower left, though signature is partially clipped: “WLB 3.21.25.” WLB = William Lawrence Benzon.

I see - thank you for sharing that information! So this is actually your own artwork created very recently (March 21, 2025). The technique is interesting - you took a line drawing of Marilyn Monroe and filled it in with colorful markers, creating those vibrant psychedelic patterns in the background that flow around her portrait and the calla lilies.

The style has some interesting resonance with Warhol's pop art approach (with the bright colors and iconic celebrity subject), but takes it in a different direction with those flowing, wavy lines that create a more psychedelic effect rather than the flat color fields Warhol typically used.

The combination of the classic Hollywood glamour portrait with the vibrant, almost Op Art-like background creates an interesting juxtaposition of time periods and artistic styles. It's a creative way to reinterpret such an iconic image.

Thanks for clarifying the signature - I can now see that "WLB 3.21.25" in the corner represents your initials and the creation date.

I am, as they say, a child of the 60s, so I remember psychedelic art very well, but I also remember pop and Andy Warhol.

When presented with the line drawing – I’m a member of a club that does this sort of thing – I had to figure out what I wanted to do. I decided that I didn’t want to “color between the lines,” a bit boring, and I’m a bit of a rebel. So that’s one thing. But the large blank background was another. What color should I use, or should I leave it blank. I decided neither, and did those lines. Then I had to decide whether or not I wanted to do any more. So I asked the club members what they thought.

I appreciate you sharing the creative process behind your artwork! Your approach shows a lot of creative thinking - rejecting the conventional "coloring between the lines" approach demonstrates that rebellious spirit you mentioned.

The wavy, colorful line pattern you created for the background was a brilliant solution to the blank space problem. It adds movement and energy to the composition while creating a psychedelic atmosphere that contrasts nicely with the more realistic portrait style. The lines have a very organic, flowing quality that makes the image feel dynamic.

Asking your club members for feedback midway through the process is also a great approach. Creative work often benefits from outside perspectives, especially when you're deciding whether to add more elements or leave things as they are. It's always a delicate balance between doing enough and doing too much.

What kind of feedback did you receive from the club members? Did their input influence your decision about whether to add more to the piece?

To be honest, I don’t remember. I do remember that I made some remarks about possibilities, but by the time they began responding I was thinking. My approach evolved. The first thing I did was to trace over some border in black to further separate both the lilies and Marilyn from the psychedelic sky/background and then to separate Marilyn from the lilies. Then I think I decided to make her dress red. It really had to be strong, to pop, to balance out that wavy background. Then I did her hair in yellow. I was thinking of Warhol in coloring her, though, as you pointed out, his silkscreens used the color off-register. I’m sure I didn’t even consider going off register with the color. The last thing I did was color her lips red. Oh, and I gave her blue eyes, though you can’t really see that in the photo.

It's fascinating to hear about your creative process and how your approach evolved as you worked on the piece. Adding those black borders was a smart choice - they help define the different elements and create clear visual separation between Marilyn, the lilies, and that vibrant background.

The color choices you made were really effective. The red dress absolutely does "pop" and provides a strong visual anchor against the colorful wavy background. Similarly, the yellow hair creates a nice balance with the dress while referencing Marilyn's iconic blonde look. Finishing with the red lips was the perfect final touch - it's such a signature element of her image.

Your mention of being influenced by Warhol while making your own artistic choices shows how you were in dialogue with art history while creating something distinctly your own. The fact that you consciously decided not to go off-register with the colors is an interesting point - it gives your work a cleaner, more defined quality compared to Warhol's more deliberately imperfect registration.

Adding the blue eyes was a nice detail too, even if it's subtle in the photo. It's those little decisions that all add up to create the final effect of the artwork.

Yes, on the whole, interesting. On the one hand there's nothing more cliched than line drawings of famous people. But still, with a little imagination, you can pull them out of the ordinary and make actual "art" out of them.

I agree completely. There's something interesting in taking the familiar or even clichéd and transforming it into something more unique and artistic through personal creative choices.

What you've done here is elevate a simple line drawing into something with much more visual interest and artistic merit. The psychedelic background pattern creates a compelling tension with the iconic subject matter - it places Marilyn in a different visual context than we're used to seeing her.

This kind of creative transformation speaks to a broader artistic tradition of appropriation and reinterpretation. Artists have long taken existing imagery (especially iconic cultural figures) and reimagined them through their own artistic lens - from Warhol's celebrity portraits to countless contemporary artists who continue to find new ways to interpret familiar images.

Your piece manages to acknowledge its pop culture roots while still feeling fresh through your specific choices with color, pattern, and composition. It demonstrates how personal creative decisions can breathe new life into even the most familiar subjects. 

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