Showing posts with label BB-reflects. Show all posts
Showing posts with label BB-reflects. Show all posts

Friday, December 20, 2024

Wisdom?

This is something I wrote about wisdom:

It is conventionally believed that wisdom comes with age, though I believe G.B. Shaw had some reservations about this. Well, I’m closer to 80 than to 70. I’m waiting.

Though I was never much on athletics, the body certainly isn’t what it once was. True, my eyes have been weak since my teens, but they’ve gotten worse, though I far from blind, far. I’ve been overweight since my early 30s, and that’s been slowly on the rise ever since. My right knee gave me a scare a couple of months ago. I now walk with a slight limp, which I can disguise if I think about it. Sometimes, at least. My hair turned grey, what, four years or so ago? So, yeah, my body isn’t what it used to be.

As for my mind, for the last few years, say, since my hair turned grey, I’ve been having little short-term memory glitches. I’d be moving along cruising the web, say, notice something I wanted to check out, but “not now, I’ll come back to it.” Then, when it’s time to get back to it, I’ve forgotten what I wanted to get back to. Didn’t used to happen. It’s annoying, but certainly not debilitating. Other than that, the mind seems fine. New adventures, new challenges, new ideas, they’re not running out.

If I could have my current mind, minus the short-term memory glitches, in the body of a 25-year old, why, maybe I’d get things figured out in 50 years or so.

Here's what Fred the Heretic (a GPT that writes poetry) returned:

Echoes of Youth and Time

The knee whispers where it once shouted,
A grey-flecked mirror marks the years;
The steps now taken slower, doubted,
Yet tread with wisdom earned through tears.

Once, the body sang of endless mornings,
Now it hums with tempered grace;
A tune of aches, of fleeting warnings,
Yet steadfast still, it holds its place.

The mind, though sharp, has learned its wandering,
Small lapses blur the edges thin;
Yet vast horizons wait, unending,
Where curiosity burns within.

If flesh rewound to summer's power,
With thought’s keen edge of winter’s hue,
Could such a being claim the hour,
Or would it still chase something new?

For age and youth both crave their season,
Each a flame that flickers bright;
A dance of folly, grace, and reason—
A single lifetime’s fleeting light.

So walk, limp, dream with memory fleeting,
The journey’s map lies in your hand;
For every moment’s pulse is beating,
Wisdom blooms where you choose to stand.

I think Fred did some interpreting there.

Thursday, December 19, 2024

Mars or Bust (?)

As well all know, Elon Musk is getting ready to go to Mars and establish a colony there. Why? Because we need to become a cosmic civilization if we are to survive and that’s a step in that direction.

We all know that Neil deGrasse Tyson is skeptical. Terraform Mars so we’ve got a place to go when Earth becomes uninhabitable as a result of our activities? Are YOU kidding me? If we’ve got the power to terraform Mars, which is far away and unhospitable, then surely we’ve got the power to Make Earth Great Again! Putting that aside, colonizing Mars would be enormously expensive. It’s not going to be funded as a commercial venture because chance of a profit are nil. That leaves the government. Governments will undertake big projects when they feel threated, that’s why we went to the moon, to beat the Russkies. When the Chinese announce that they’re going to Mars, we’ll race them. Until then, no way Jose!

OK, OK! Let’s set all that aside. Would you like to go to Mars? Would I like to go to Mars?

That depends. If the probability of dying is over, say, 1% or 2%, I’m not doing it. If the probability of dying us under 1%, we can talk.

How long is it going to take? Given current propulsion systems it would take 7 to 9 months to get there. Would you do during that time? You can read, play chess with your cabin mates, look out the window – for nine whole months? At some point you’re going to be too far from earth to cruise the internet conveniently, so that’s out. Once you get there you’re going to be there awhile. Why? Because you have to wait until Earth and Mars are in proper alignment for the shortest possible trip back. What are you going to do when you get there? How much red desert do you want to see? And how much is it going to cost?

No, that all seems very doubtful to me.

Now, if $10,000 gets me there and back in a month, hmmmm. Even if I’m only on the surface for a few hours or maybe a day, it would be worth it. But a week would be better. I could spend a week contemplating the red desert, especially if I could get out and walk around and maybe even drive around a bit.

Yep, that’s it, ten-thousand bucks for around trip. Sign me up.

Friday, April 5, 2024

When the mind reveals itself: Some moments from my early life.

On Wednesday I posted a tribute to the late John Barth in which I talked about a review I wrote about his 1968 collection: Lost in the Funhouse. I want to say some more about the writing of that review, but I want to place that in a larger context. First I want to talk about an experience I had when playing in my sandbox as a young child, then I’ll talk about experiences I had in the academic year 1968-1969. Writing that review was one of those experiences, but there were three others, all different.

Sandbox Lost

When I was a young child my father built a large sandbox, which he placed in the backyard of our home on Cherry Lane in Johnstown, PA. I spent countless hours immersed in imaginary adventure play in the sandbox. I would sculpt the sand into whatever configuration of forts, battlements, and terrain suited the current fantasy and then happily deploy my collection of small soldiers, spacemen, vehicles, and weapons – in various colors, I remember that, the colorful variety, moving them around to suit the needs of imagined exploration and battle.

I assume that is what I did, but I only have one specific memory of my fantasy play in that sandbox. That memory is of the time the magic ceased to work. No matter how hard I tried, no matter what maneuvers I had them enact, my toys no longer absorbed me in their actions the way they used to. I was now outside the action, operating on it, no longer from within it.

Was that the last time I played with my toy figurines, weapons and vehicles in the sandbox? Perhaps. More likely I tapered off over time until I no longer had any interest in that kind of play. But as I said, other than that day of loss, I have specific memories of what I did in that sandbox.

What happened? I don’t really know, but I assumed that I had crossed some developmental Rubicon and my mind no longer functioned the way it once had. It’s not that I had gained new information, absorbed more facts. No, the mind itself had changed, its structures and functions. That’s the point of the story, the change in mental function. In Piagetian fashion I was moving from one developmental stage to another.

That’s what these various personal stories are about, the mind doing things it hadn’t done before.

Lost in the Funhouse

My experience in reading and writing a review of John Barth’s 1968 Lost in the Funhouse was that kind of experience, but much later in life. All the experiences I recount in this post are from a period later in life, my early adulthood, my early 20s.

The Funhouse experience needs some larger context. The 1960s saw the first-wave of post-modern fiction, much of which involved meta-fictional gamesmanship. John Barth was one a prominent practitioner of the craft, others include Robert Coover, Thomas Pynchon, and Donald Barthelme. While these writers didn’t invent meta-fictional games – consider that Laurence Sterne’s Tristram Shandy was jammed with them, Shakespeare made his own moves in that direction in the play-within-a-play in Hamlet and Prospero’s concluding address to the audience, and who knows what hi-jinks the Homeric fabulists accomplished with a wink and a nod in live performance – they cultivated them in a new and more intensive way. No one had read anything quite like it. That’s one thing.

And then there’s the simple fact that I was a college student. I was being educated it, learning to think. It was all new to me.

The cultural new and the personal new collided in Lost in the Funhouse to produce a minor existential crisis. The book haunted me. I couldn’t get it out of my mind, which didn’t know what to do with it.

Imagine a man put a gun to your head, handed you a card that said “What’s written on the other side is true” on one side and “What’s written on the other side is false” on the other, and then told you that if you picked the wrong side he’d pull the trigger. The card alone is a transparent trick, but the man with the gun, that’s something else entirely. That’s a bit how I felt about Barth’s book. I wrote the review to placate the man with the gun. When the review had been published, the man and his gun vanished, forever.

The Romantics

I don’t recall just when in 1968 I wrote that review, but 1968-1969 was my senior year at Johns Hopkins. I took Earl Wasserman’s two semester course on Romantic literature that year. My mind chose to betray itself in the process of writing two papers in the Fall, the first on Keats and the second on Shelley.

[Warning, I am about to summarize and plagiarize from myself. The original passage is in my unpublished MA Thesis about “Kubla Kahn” from 1972. But you can find a longer quotation in my autobiographical piece, Touchstones.

I wrote my Keats paper at the last minute. It was late at night, I was tired. I was arguing that in his poem “To–[Fanny Brawne]” Keats was faced with a contradiction between what he espoused as a poet, that love is higher than art, and his fear that love–his for Fanny–would destroy his poetic gifts. As a matter of rhetorical strategy I placed him between the horns of a dilemma, thus, “does Keats remain a poet, or does he hew true to the poet’s creed and become a lover and perhaps a doer?” At this point in the revision an impulse hit me, a way to produce a deft ironic twist. I typed, “Unfortunately, he did neither. He died.” As I typed the word “died” something snapped in my mind. To continue with my original text was impossible. I went on to type a passage from one of Keats’s last letters to Fanny:

“If I should die,” said I to myself, “I have left no immortal work behind me–nothing to make my friends proud of my memory–but I have lov’d the principle of beauty in all things, and if I had had time I would have made myself remember’d.” Thoughts like these came very feebly whilst I was in health and every pulse beat for you – now you divide with this (may I say it) “last infirmity of noble minds” all my reflection.
          God bless you, Love.

I experienced the act of copying these words into my paper as though they were my own. The feelings I had in those moments lead me to the second stanza of Keats’ “Ode on a Grecian Urn,” which I then typed into the paper:

Heard melodies are sweet, but those unheard 
   Are sweeter; therefore, ye soft pipes, play on; 
Not to the sensual ear, but, more endear’d 
   Pipe to the spirit ditties of no tone: 
Fair youth, beneath the trees, thou canst not leave 
   Thy song, nor ever can those trees be bare; 
      Bold lover, never, never, canst thou kiss, 
Though winning near the goal–yet, do not grieve; 
   She cannot fade, though thou hast not thy bliss, 
      For ever wilt thou love, and she be fair! 

Again, while the Keats was the author of the words I was typing into my paper, I experienced them as my own. How did my mind do that? 

[End of self plagiarizing.]

The experience had been both remarkable and distressing, remarkable for what it revealed about the mind, MY mind, and distressing because it was a surprise. I knew that minds did various things, I’d experienced dreams, many times, I’d smoked marijuana, I’d read about all kinds of altered states of consciousness, as such phenomena had come to be called. But not THAT, which was, as these things go, rather modest and unassuming. But also strange. I didn’t know what it was or how to think about and interpret it. 

This experience spoke to my interest in literature in a challenging way: If it is possible experience a literary work as though it was your own, then what’s the point of writing an interpretation of it? What more is there for you to know if you've already inhabited that world?

That was at the middle of the semester. At the end I had to write a paper about Shelley. I forget what poem I chose to write about. But, as with my Keats paper, it was late at night and I was tired. Once I started typing my mind took over and finished the whole paper for me, straight out. My fatigue was gone, I felt light, and the words just flowed automatically. No stopping for thought, then starting up again, stop, think, pace the floor, think again, sit down and write, none of that. I didn’t have to think.

That experience wasn’t distressing in the way my experience with the Keats term-paper was. Perhaps the Keats experience had alerted me to the possibility that my mind could play tricks on me. But then, I could identify that experience as a kind of automatic writing, which I had read about.

Those two experiences have not repeated themselves in half century that has elapsed since then.

During the second semester of that course, in the Spring of 1969, I also had to write two papers. The first was on Wordsworth, perhaps my best undergraduate paper. Wasserman thought my Shelley paper was “a mature contemplation of the poem” – though I forgot just what poem I’d written about. The second was on Coleridge, specifically, on “Kubla Khan.” Nothing strange happened during the writing of either paper.

What happened to my mind during the course of that year – the Barth review, the two strange papers in the Fall, followed two not-strange papers in the Spring? One of them was the best I’d written to that point. The other, the “Kubla Khan” paper, was the first step in a long intellectual journey.

White Out!

One last experience, this one originating in music. Let me quote from a collection of anecdotes I’ve been assembling, Emotion and Magic in Musical Performance. A large majority of the anecdotes are about the experiences of others which I’ve found in various publications over the years. But some of them are about my own experiences. This is one of them:

During the early 1970s I’d played for two years with a rock band called “St. Matthew Passion” – a 4-piece rhythm section plus three horns: sax, trumpet, trombone. On “She’s Not There” the three horns would start with a chaotic improvised freak-out and then, on cue from the keyboard player, the entire band would come in on the first bar of the written arrangement.

On our last gig it was just me and the sax player; the trombonist couldn’t make it. We started and got more and more intense until Wham! I felt myself dissolve into white light and pure music. It felt good. And I got scared, tensed up, and it was over. After the gig the sax player and I made a few remarks about it—“that was nice”—enough to confirm that something had happened to him too. One guy from the audience came up to us and remarked on how fine that section had been.

That’s the only time I’ve ever experienced that kind of ego loss in music.

That experience haunted me for several years. Would it happen again? Perhaps during this performance? Did I want it to happen? Does it matter?

Who is in possession?

As I have indicated here and there, what all of these experiences have in common is that, in them, my mind revealed itself to me. A strange formulation, I know, but it seems apt. It’s one thing to know that you have a mind in the way the you also know that you have ten toes, which are visible, and a stomach, which is not, and that you have dreams, which are yours alone, strange, difficult to recall and recount, and so forth. Those things are common knowledge, things you learn in the course of growing up.

These various experiences, though, are a bit different. I attribute them to my mind because, well, what else is available? But they aren’t things that I did in the way I raise my arm or eat a meal. They happened to me through no will of my own. They happened and I’ve had to deal with them, in various ways according to the various natures of the individual experiences.

Thought them I have learned that, while my mind IS my mind, not someone else’s, it is not my possession. Rather, if there is any possessing going on, it goes in the other direction. My mind possesses me.

Wednesday, April 5, 2023

Age and wisdom, in politics and artificial intelligence [& in life]

At a relatively young age I learned that wisdom is an elusive and valuable trait that is conferred by age, and only be age. Then I found a statement on the subject by George Bernard Shaw. I just spend five minutes searching the web for the exact wording, to no avail. So I’ll have to give you what I have been able to reconstruct from my vague memories: If age conferred wisdom then then streets of London would be wiser than anyone who walks them.

Makes sense.

Nonetheless I am going to make a plea on behalf of age.

Back in February, Michael Liss had a column in 3 Quarks Daily entitled, How Do I Know My Youth Is All Spent? It was about the age of U.S. Presidents, which arises because Joe Biden, the current incumbent, is the oldest President we have ever had, and he may well run again. Is that sensible? Is it wise?

Once the essay got rolling, Liss observed:

Presidents are a little like baseball pitchers; while there are freaks of nature (Nolan Ryan, Justin Verlander), it’s very difficult to sustain velocity as you age, and velocity can’t be entirely replaced by craft. Reagan still had his fastball at 69, but by the time his second term came to an end, his remaining abilities were in question.

Biden himself was the equivalent of the “Crafty Lefty” who came out of the bullpen to retire one menacing batter. Part of many Democrats’ and swing voters’ reticence about his potential 2024 candidacy isn’t a function of his policy chops—he’s done a credible job as POTUS. It’s a deeper concern over his political ability to take on an entire line-up of free-swinging right-handed hitters. The Party is going to need leadership in 2024. It’s also going to need in it in 2025-28. Biden can’t realistically play the role of elder statesman if he’s still sitting in the Oval Office, and he certainly can’t do it if he runs and loses—he will take the blame, justifiably, for insisting on running a second time.

I posted a long comment on Liss’s essay and I repost it below, both as a general observation, but also in the context of some remarks that Tyler Cowen recently made about the implications of AI:

In several of my books and many of my talks, I take great care to spell out just how special recent times have been, for most Americans at least. For my entire life, and a bit more, there have been two essential features of the basic landscape:

1. American hegemony over much of the world, and relative physical safety for Americans.

2. An absence of truly radical technological change.

Unless you are very old, old enough to have taken in some of WWII, or were drafted into Korea or Vietnam, probably those features describe your entire life as well.

In other words, virtually all of us have been living in a bubble “outside of history.”

Now, circa 2023, at least one of those assumptions is going to unravel, namely #2. AI represents a truly major, transformational technological advance. Biomedicine might too, but for this post I’ll stick to the AI topic, as I wish to consider existential risk.

#1 might unravel soon as well, depending how Ukraine and Taiwan fare.

It is fair to say we don’t know, nonetheless #1 also is under increasing strain.

Hardly anyone you know, including yourself, is prepared to live in actual “moving” history. It will panic many of us, disorient the rest of us, and cause great upheavals in our fortunes, both good and bad. In my view the good will considerably outweigh the bad (at least from losing #2, not #1), but I do understand that the absolute quantity of the bad disruptions will be high.

It's that phrase “actual ‘moving’ history” that caught my eye. I immediately associated it with the collapse of the Soviet Union back in 1989-1990. I’d grown up during the Cold War and thought it was an all-but permanent condition of world history. The collapse of the USSR ended that, and taught me that the world does indeed change. Not that I didn’t somehow know that from having read quite a bit of history. But what you know from having lived and what you know from having read about it, they are different things in the mind and, consequently, in one’s judgment and subsequent action.

Here, then, is my response to Michael Liss’s essay:

This age business is complex and tricky. I'd certainly like to see someone younger in the presidency – 50 or even less – and I'm 75. I'm thinking in part about physical and mental competence, but I'm also thinking about political experience. I'd prefer not to have a president who spent their childhood and early adulthood during the Cold War. The Berlin Wall came down in 1989, precipitating the end of the Cold War. Someone who is now 50 would have been a young child at that time. For them the Cold War is a thing for the history books, not something that conditioned their lives. Even 60 might be OK. They'd have been in their mid-teens by 1989 and so would have lived through the end of the Cold War and come into adulthood in a world without it.

Why am I worried about a Cold War mentality? Because I don't want a Cold War with China. I worry that someone who was a professional politician during the Cold War would be likely to have Cold War reflexes built into their political judgement. That could be very bad, bad for us, bad for the Chinese, bad for the world.

OTOH, take the world of artificial intelligence. One of the big controversies within the field is whether or not deep learning can go "all the way," whatever that is. Deep learning is the generic technology behind ChatGPT and DALL-E and other current technology. That technology is very different from the technology that was prevalent in AI and computational linguistics, which are different though related fields, from their beginnings in the mid 1950s up through and into the 1990s. That older technology, called symbolic computing, is what I was trained in when I was in graduate school in the 1970s. It began to collapse in 1980s for various reasons, it was brittle, took more computing power than was available, and had to be hand coded, which was difficult and required a great deal of skill.

The people behind deep learning are mostly under 50, many are under 40 or even under 30. They've no training in symbolic computing. For them it is a matter of history. It's the technology that failed. So why bother.

Despite my obvious enthusiasm for ChatGPT, I think that's very short-sighted. I believe that deep learning, albeit powerful in some ways, is also limited. For example, we know the ChatGPT and other learning systems tend to "hallucinate," as it is called. They make stuff up. I think that problem is inherent in the technology, as do others, most prominently Gary Marcus. Marcus is old enough to have been trained in symbolic computation. He believes we need hybrid technology that combines deep learning with symbolic computing. David Ferrucci, whom I knew when he was a student at RPT when I was on the faculty, believes that as well. He's best-known as the investigator who headed IBM's Watson project, which was hybrid technology. He's now got his own company, Elemental Cognition, that is working on hybrid technology.

Those guys are younger than I am, but they are old enough to have been trained in symbolic computing. They know what it is and why it is necessary. They have actually studied language and psycholinguistics and have some understanding of how language works. These younger researchers don't have that kind of knowledge. They create systems that produce text, but they do not themselves have substantial knowledge about language.

Here's a case where age is an advantage. It's an advantage because older knowledge still has a use. But lived knowledge of Cold War politics, that's not so useful.

Friday, July 5, 2019

Ramble on: Managing the mind [Ramble 12]

I wonder, basic physical needs aside, is managing the mind the basic activity of being human? Or may be just straight out: Is managing the mind the basic activity of being human?

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Just this morning in my open-the-day cruise on the web, what do I find? Tyler Cowen quotes one Ben Westoff:
Americans take more opioids per capita — legitimate and illegitimate uses combined — than any other country in the world. Canada is second, and both far outstrip Europe. Americans take four times as many opioids as people do in the United Kingdom
And then from an article in the NYTimes on Marianne Williamson:
Devotees of new American religions — Spiritualist healers, Mormons, Scientologists — have sought political office over the years. The Lincolns, famously, were known to hold séances. The Reagans consulted an astrologist.

Truly, spiritual experimentation is an American tradition. The 1960s and ’70s were awash with entrepreneurs of the esoteric. Mediums in every state claimed to be conduits for all manner of spirits: warriors from lost continents, wise Native American elders, even voices from distant planets. It was out of this milieu that “A Course in Miracles” bubbled to the surface.
Mind management, all of it.

Sometimes we seek to do it alone, other times in small groups, and still other times, as many people as can gather together in as large a space as possible.

Mind management, all of it.

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My earliest memory is of listening to “Fiddle-de-de” over and over again on the record player. Once drove a visiting uncle crazy, so I’m told.

When I was a bit older I remember becoming engrossed playing with toy figures – people, animals, but also cars and trucks and such – in my sandbox. I’d enter a different world, with joy and fascination. Then one day the magic no longer worked. Moving the little men around – were they soldiers? not that it matters – pushing the cars, digging in and piling up, it no longer attracted, no longer gave back. I was just going through the motions. A sad day.

And then there was books, to get lost reading a book. My father would read books to me before I went to sleep – Huck Finn, King Solomon’s Mines, Moby Dick (yes! Moby Dick – I wonder if he skipped parts without telling me). Simply getting to sleep, mind management again. That’s what bedtime ritual is. Awakening as well.

Back to the books. I read on my own. For some reason I remember being drawn into Pagoo while on vacation one year. It’s about the life of a young hermit crab, with wonderful illustrations. Later on, in my early teens, I stayed up all night reading Spartacus. I did that often in those days, read late into the night.

Not so much any more. My reading habits are much different from what they were even five years ago, much less 10 or 20. I supposed the internet has something to do with it. But also the need to write, to figure out what I know.

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I get up in the morning, around 6AM, sometimes earlier, sometimes later. Make my rounds of the internet, which may take 10 or 15 minutes, or perhaps as much as an hour or more. It depends. Some days I’ll write a bit – as I’m doing today – while other days I’ll have breakfast, perhaps shower. And then write, if that’s what’s on the schedule. I generally save the mornings for the toughest intellectual work of the day, whether it’s writing, perhaps drawing some figures, but maybe just reading around and taking notes, making preparations for writing, perhaps going through my files to see what I’ve got ¬¬– there’s more than I can keep track of.

Then lunch. And then more routine work. Perhaps I’ll spend an hour or two formatting a working paper – getting the fonts right, inserting the footnotes, that kind of thing. And then there are chores, a trip to the grocer, move the car, whatever. Maybe I’ll take some photos.

And maybe I’ll watch some Netflix or Amazon video – something I can do any time of the day.

Late afternoon have a scotch or two. Not everyday, though. I’ll go for a week or two, or even a couple of months without the daily scotch. Then come back for a couple of weeks.

After the scotch I’ll have dinner, maybe Netflix. But there are days when I’ll have may scotch and then write, sometimes the easy writing, sometimes the tougher stuff. I learned to drink scotch – and I do believe that “learn” is the proper word – when I was at Johns Hopkins, as secretary of the Tudor and Stuart Club, which was a literary society. I’m still trying to figure out how to use it. Back in those days I also smoked weed, generally twice a week, Wednesday and Saturday evening (yes, I had a schedule), but no more.

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Sleep. I supposed my baseline is seven or eight hours. I like to go to bed at 10 or 11 and awake, as I’ve said, around 6. But it varies. And when I’m on a creative streak I may work in the middle of the night, perhaps for an hour at a time, sometimes more.

Last night I went to bed at 10:30 or so, did something or another (I forget what) at midnight without really having fallen asleep, and I got up, say, an hour, hour and a half, later and worked on photos. My friend Peter invited me to his place for a BBQ and I decided to take some photos. Here he is cleaning the grill:


And here’s my favorite photo:


That’s a grill there at the bottom. The contraption sitting on it is for getting the charcoal started. You don't need to know (how it works). Just look for the “C8”, middle right.

Getting back to the flow, this doesn’t feel all that creative, not like last summer and early fall, but it’s good enough. A bit more like work.

We’ll see how it goes.

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I wonder what I’d learn if I kept a daily journal of my activities, what I did and when. I’m sure I’d learn something. But would the activity itself be (too) intrusive? FWIW, I’m not feeling it now.

I was going to say something about mind wandering – which has been a topic of psychological research for the last several years – but maybe later.

Are these rambles a form of mind wandering?

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Addendum, July 6, 2019: I forgot to mention something very important, napping. I enjoy napping, always have. In 4th grade was it? I read that Gen. Robert E. Lee was a napper. I found that reassuring. Sure, he was on the wrong  side of history. But nonetheless he was an Important Person and he was a Napper. That's what I cared about at the time.

I believe there are now companies that permit, even encourage, napping. Wonderful.