I don't recall just when I first learned about Peter Thiel, or how. Perhaps it was over at Marginal Revolution, a blog that Tyler Cowen runs along with his friend and colleague, Alex Tabarrok. Cowen is a big fan of Thiel's, regards him as one of the premier, if under-appreciated, public intellectuals of our time. I've been following Marginal Revolution for years. Thiel comes up often enough, so it's plausible that that's where I learned out about Thiel.
Anyhow, when I learned about Thiel, I also learned that, not only was he a Christian, but that he was something of a fan/student/disciple (?) of René Girard, the literary critic and philosopher. Now, Girard I've known about for years, since my freshman year at Johns Hopkins. During freshman orientation a number of lectures had been made available to us. They were on a variety of subjects, all given at the same time. We had to pick one, or, I assume, none at all. I picked one on something called "cultural relativity." Just why I picked that one, I do not know. But I did, and it was given Girard. Strangest thing I'd ever heard – that was my impression. Later on I took a number of courses given by Dick Macksey. He had Girard as a guest lecturer. That's when I learned about mimetic desire and sacrifice, Girard's major themes.
But I digress. This post isn't about me or Girard. It's an excerpt from an article in The New York Times, Seeking God, or Peter Thiel, in Silicon Valley, by Emma Goldberg. Here's the opening paragraphs:
Everything clicked when Peter Thiel gave the speech about God.
The occasion was a 40th birthday party for Trae Stephens, who is Mr. Thiel’s venture capital partner as well as one of the founders of Anduril Industries, a maker of high-tech defense systems and weaponry. It was a multiday affair, held in 2023 at Mr. Stephens’s home in New Mexico. It began with an evening roasting the birthday boy, followed by another toasting him and then a brunch with caviar bumps, mimosas and breakfast pizza. At the brunch (the theme was the Holy Ghost), Mr. Thiel, the Silicon Valley billionaire and right-wing kingmaker, delivered a talk about miracles, forgiveness and Jesus Christ. The guests were enthralled.
“The room of over 220 people, mostly in technology and venture capital, were coming up to us saying, ‘Oh, my goodness, I didn’t know Peter Thiel was a Christian,’” recalled Michelle Stephens, Mr. Stephens’s wife. “‘He’s gay and a billionaire. How can he be Christian?’”
That reaction — eyebrows raised, curiosity genuine — gave Ms. Stephens an idea: Gather influential people, including in Silicon Valley, to talk about Christian belief. Last year, she started a nonprofit called ACTS 17 Collective, which holds events where the bigwigs of the tech and entertainment industries discuss their faith. For those seeking not just spiritually but also professionally, it’s a chance to get close to industry demigods.
Mr. Thiel was the featured speaker at the first ACTS 17 event last May, at the San Francisco home of Garry Tan, the chief executive of Y Combinator. He talked about how Christian theology informs his politics and which of the Ten Commandments he finds most meaningful. (The first and last: Worship God, and don’t covet what others have.) A D.J. added ambience, mixing worship beats for the more than 200 attendees. [...]
The name ACTS 17 is an acronym (Acknowledging Christ in Technology and Society), but it also refers to the biblical chapter in which Paul the Apostle crisscrosses Athens and Thessaloniki to spread the Gospel among Greek “kings and queens of culture,” as Ms. Stephens puts it, the eminent and affluent demographic that she aims to minister to today. It’s a somewhat counterintuitive Christian calling, she acknowledged.
“We were always taught as Christians to serve the meek, the lowly, the marginalized,” Ms. Stephens said. “I think we’ve realized that, if anything, the rich, the wealthy, the powerful need Jesus just as much.”
Silicon Valley executives are accustomed to chasing the elusive — fortune, breakthroughs, power — but God has not tended to rank high on the list.
Frankly, and judging from the big-money hijinks surrounding AI these days and the shenanigans Musk is up to in Washington – Musk has worked with Thiel and claims to be a “big believer in the principles of Christianity” – serving "the meek, the lowly, the marginalized" is not high on the list of things that Silicon Valley cares about. Goldberg's article gets around to that. She has more to say about Thiel as well, and the Girard connection. It's a good read.
(Your sister): I'm skeptical. These people remind me of the affluent landlord here in town who has no shame about telling some of his Social Security dependent renters that they'll be paying an increase as a voluntary donation -- but that this is required to keep their lease. Really . . . The techies are undoubtedly feeling empty and unsatisfied. Trying to fill the void of their reflections with themselves.
ReplyDeleteYour sister is marked by the smeyenof sauron wielded by Peter Thiel.
ReplyDeleteRevolutionary Truth.... from Thiel's contrarian sorting question.
He wants "charismatic force" not facts or truths. Thiel has crystal balls.
He believes there are only "three plausible futures".
3 futures. 8 billion humans. Conservatives to dedine new futures.!
Thiel has fully realized Palantir Technologies goals, enabling "The palantírs were used for communication and to see events in other parts of Arda, or in the past."
"Their software as a service (SaaS) is one of five offerings authorized for Mission Critical National Security Systems (IL5[7])". Gulp!
The Eye of Sauron.
Thiel is blinded BY HIS OWN "charismatic force" He thinks he is...
"My name is Ozymandias, King of Kings:
Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!"
No thing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare
The lone and level sands stretch far away." ~ Percy Shelley
People who fall for Thiel are fools, knaves or worse. Add delusions of god.
Palantir Technologies Wikipedia page has DELETED the explanation and link of the definition of Palantir. Hmmm...
"A palantír ([paˈlanˌtiːr]; pl. palantíri) is one of several indestructible crystal balls from ... Lord of the Rings.
Quenya palan 'far', and tir 'watch over'.[T 1]The palantírs were used for communication and to see events in other parts of Arda, or in the past."
Peter "Palantir" Theil from his own horses mouth.
Peter Thiel's contrarian question: "What revolutionary truth do you know that no one else agrees with?"
"Zero to One (2014)
"My own answer to the contrarian question is that most people think the future of the world will be defined by globalization, but the truth is that technology matters more. ... In a world of scarce resources, globalization without new technology is unsustainable." pp. 8–9
Utter bullshit. If you wanted to sort dangerous god deluded people from the actually meritorious sans Götterdämmerung - Twilight of the Gods affliction, that is the question to boost Palantir.
PT Horse Mouth: "I think the future ... Looking at Western Europe, I would say, there are ... basically three plausible futures on offer. Number one is Islamic sharia law, and if you're a woman you get to wear a burqa. Number two is totalitarian AI à laChina, where the computers track you in everything you do — all the time — and that's kind of creepy. So the Eye of Sauron, to use the Lord of the Ringsreference, is watching you at all times. And then the third one is hyper-environmentalism, where you drive an e-scooter and you recycle. And even though I'm not a radical environmentalist ... if those are the three choices, I think you can understand why the Green Movement is winning — because those are the three visions of the future we have. And the challenge on the conservative or libertarian side is to offer something that is a picture of the future that's different from these two dystopian and one somewhat stagnant one."
(September 23, 2019)"Peter Thiel on "The Straussian Moment"". Hoover Institution".
Bill, I used to read marginal revolution. I couldn't quite put my finger on why Tyler's writing made me wary. Just read the comments Bill.
Birds of a feather flock together.
And the final 2 Thiel nails. At end of his Wikipedia quotes page...
"See also
Curtis Yarvin
Bertrand de Jouvenel
Eric Voegelin
Patri Friedman
Finally... BARI WEISS!!!
"No More Hustleporn: Peter Thiel thinks there are three options for the future - Islamic Sharia law, totalitarian AI, or hyper-environmentalism"
BY YIREN LU — JUN 14, 2023
"We pulled out the best insights from Peter Thiel's recent interview with Bari Weiss. Transcription and light editing by Anthropic's Claude, curation by Yiren Lu :-)" Theneye of Sairon will lead you.
Thiel is a clear and present danger to humanity. Tyler Cowan is an apologist.
Thiel, Palantir and the DOGe's have already allocated yellow stars in the Palqntir... of "No thing beside remains. Round the decay".
#50501.
Forgive my ignorance about Lord of the Rings: does being "marked by the smeyenof sauron wielded by Peter Thiel" mean that he'd like to kill me/silence me/ subject me to public humiliation to teach me a lesson? Ha! FWIW I also read Marginal Revolution occasionally -- to stay apprised of peoples' thoughts that differ from my own world view. I think Cowen is deluded. Where I've worked for all my adult life, we'd call it "not having your feet on the ground". And what a mess of distorted thought that failure creates!
DeleteRe "kill me/silence me/ subject me to public humiliation to teach me a lesson? "
DeleteKill. No. Whoever you are, if posting here are, and it needs to be said, we're not worth the bother, as...
Silence me. Effectively we are silent. See Figure 1 in...
Graham & Andrejevic 2024 "A computational analysis of potential algorithmic bias on platform X during the 2024 US election" . We, and the main stream media are mere worms on as to "views".
Subject mento public humiliation. Seen above. Only if your head rises above the parapet. Unlikely.
Teach me a lesson? Framing incorrect. Subdue and indoctrinate and dominate. Like the Matrix, you are needed for the polarising force. Just a negative.
See next where JD Vance, a visible pinocchio of Thiel...
"Western Europe, I would say, there are ... basically three plausible futures on offer. Number one is Islamic sharia law, and if you're a woman you get to wear a burqa".
Thiel says that seriously!
Thanks for your response. The whole take -- to me personally -- is laughable. However, I realize this is a man who a lot of people and big money take seriously. There's a novel I put aside to read "later" that is of Soviet Russia and an absurdist rendering of the personalities at play. Good time now to read it.
Delete"The Problem of Gwaihir and the Council of Elrond"
ReplyDeleteLee Sallows
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"and thus is launched the great adventure that culminates in Frodo and Sam’s eventual arrival at Mount Doom, the successful destruction of the Ring, and the downfall of Sauron. And few of us, I guess, would have it otherwise.
"Nevertheless, below I hope to show that, for all his meticulous attention to the internal consistency of his created world, Tolkien is guilty of a whopping oversight in regard to Gwaihir that can only be viewed as an irretrievable flaw in the internal logic of his narrative. Irretrievable because no amount of logic-chopping is able to explain away a disparity that undermines almost everything that happens in the wake of the Council, which is to say, the very Quest itself. The only wonder is that this fatal blemish has not been pointed out long since.
"My aim is not to denigrate Tolkien, whose wonderful book has brought me endless hours of delight, but merely to stake a claim for the dubious honour of being first in print to identify a significant discrepancy in The Lord of the Rings. It is a discrepancy that, to the best of my knowledge, has escaped the notice of everybody hitherto: legions of Tolkien readers, past and present, the members of dozens of Tolkien Societies around the world, the authors of countless publications devoted to every conceivable aspect of Tolkien’s works. [Added in 2012: ten years on, I am still unaware of any earlier publication dealing with Tolkien's slip regarding Gwaihir. I will be glad to hear from any reader able to supply a contrary reference.]
"So bold a claim is unlikely to be accepted lightly. On the matter of priority I may, of course, be at fault. But as to the substance, if anyone can discover some plausible alternative to the conclusion here reached that Tolkien has blundered, I shall be curious to learn the details.
Gwaihir the Windlord
"If the words I have put into Frodo’s mouth above strike the reader as ridiculous or far-fetched, consider the evidence of the narrative.
We first meet Gwaihir,..."
...
https://www.leesallows.com/index.php?page_menu=Home&pagename=Gwaihir
SD.
Henry Farrell on Weaponized Interdependence, Big Tech, and Playing with Ideas (Ep. 78), Conversations with Tyler
ReplyDeleteJD Vance first attack using Thiel on "Western Europe, I would say, there are ... basically three plausible futures on offer. Number one is Islamic sharia law, and if you're a woman you get to wear a burqa"
ReplyDeleteJD Vance stuns Munich conference with blistering attack on Europe’s leaders
US vice-president questions whether European values are worth defending as he rails against ‘threat from within’
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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/feb/14/jd-vance-stuns-munich-conference-with-blistering-attack-on-europes-leaders
What they Voldemorts don't want is....
General Data Protection Regulation
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Data_Protection_Regulation
No fetters for our psycho stasicar for us. We would not be able to Sauron with Palantir. And Aundril.
The Nerd Reich
ReplyDeleteDystopia
"Reboot' Revealed: Elon Musk's CEO-Dictator Playbook
In 2022, one of Peter Thiel's favorite thinkers envisioned a second Trump Administration in which the federal government would be run by a “CEO”
Gil Duran
05 Feb 2025
DOGE = RAGE, masked in the bland language of “efficiency.”
But Musk’s reliance on Yarvin’s playbook runs deeper.
In an essay dated April 2022, Yarvin updated RAGE to something he described as a “butterfly revolution.” In an essay on his paywalled Substack, he imagined a second Trump presidency in which Trump would enable a radical government transformation. The proposal will sound familiar to anyone who has watched Musk wreak havoc on the United States Government (USG) over the past three weeks.
Wrote Yarvin:
We’ve got to risk a full power start—a full reboot of the USG. We can only do this by giving absolute sovereignty to a single organization—with roughly the powers that the Allied occupation authorities held in Japan and Germany in the fall of 1945. This level of centralized emergency power worked to refound a nation then, for them. So it should work now, for us.”
(The metaphor of “full power start” comes from Star Trek and entails a risky process of restarting a fictional spaceship in a way that might cause “implosion.” The World War II metaphor casts the federal government as a conquered enemy now controlled by an outside force.)
Yarvin wrote that in a second term, Trump could appoint a different person to act as the nation’s “CEO.” This CEO would be enabled to run roughshod over the federal government, with Trump in the background as “chairman of the board.” The metaphors clarify the core idea: Run the government as a rogue corporation rather than a public institution beholden to the rules of democracy.
Trump himself will not be the brain …He will not be the CEO. He will be the chairman of the board—he will select the CEO (an experienced executive). This process, which obviously has to be televised, will be complete by his inauguration—at which the transition to the next regime will start immediately.
This CEO will bring a new radical new style of leadership to the federal government:
The CEO he picks will run the executive branch without any interference from the Congress or courts, probably also taking over state and local governments. Most existing important institutions, public and private, will be shut down and replaced with new and efficient systems. Trump will be monitoring this CEO’s performance, again on TV, and can fire him if need be.
Sound familiar?
Yarvin continues:
...
Yarvin pitched his vision as a fictional or unlikely scenario. Unfortunately, it now appears to be our new reality. The press's failure to connect these dots isn't just a journalistic oversight — it's a critical missed warning about the systematic dismantling of democratic governance. By the time most Americans understand what's happening, the "reboot" – the destruction of government – may already be complete.
https://www.thenerdreich.com/reboot-elon-musk-ceo-dictator-doge/