Is Trump Becoming Putin? | Robert Wright & Nikita Petrov PLUS Troubles with the nation-state as a primary anchor for identity

Nikita's remarks on the nation-state as primary anchor for identity (c. 1:01:45):

One of the ways I pitched it to you is uh we can we can frame it ambitiously. We can say that uh the prevalent identity forming force in the world today is the nation state. Uh so much so it's almost hard to imagine to not have an identity attached to uh your country l ike somebody's not Russian, not American, not anything.
And that is my my understanding is a pretty new phenomenon
like there was a time when just a few centuries ago when people thought of their religion maybe village or even loyalty to a king but a king is like a person. He has a family and not this like expansive uh you know millions of people together as your people.
uh and uh some people say that that that uh force is in crisis.
The nation state itself is in crisis or at least a bunch of them are struggling with their own identity.
And then on individual level, I mean I particularly, you know, I I have a connection to my country and to my people, but I'm outside of that country as many Russians are. Uh and the relationship is not an easy one.
I'm contemplating like visiting and then I don't know whether I should because I read the news and there's another person who got like eight years for donating 500 bucks to a Ukrainian foundation. Um. Mhm.
And I think there are a lot of people in different that who are in different ways alienated from their um country or society or have a complicated relationship with it. And there it's not written anywhere that there has to be just one of those that you you should consider yourself a part of this tribe to the exclusion of every other tribe.

And so my kind of pitch is like listen we are already uh some kind of network. We are connected. The people who uh listen to uh nonzero who read nonzero who exchange comments in the comment section have something in common. There's a sensibility worldview maybe even a sense of humor.
There are things uh that are not made very explicit that make uh that that that highlight some affinity between these people and they're all over the world. And uh and so why not see if we can build something more from that to to establish more of a relationship between these different members of the audience. And I say as I say like treat them less of an audience less as an audience and more as nodes in a network.

Timestamps for the whole conversation:

0:00 Bob welcomes Nikita back to the Nonzero team
6:17 WSJ's report on Trump's authoritarian drift
8:46 Three levers: streets, media, education system
12:58 Trump the businessman and Trump the politician
14:50 Why Putin was compelling in 1999, when Russia was a young democracy
22:37 Laws vs norms
29:05 Trump and lawfare: how independent is the US judiciary?
35:52 Partisanship among judges
38:28 Trump's view of the world as a game
42:44 Cynicism as a political brand
46:10 Nikita: Putin and Trump share a geopolitical worldview
49:46 The damage the US and Russia did to the international law
54:25 The evolution of Putin's understanding of geopolitics
59:22 Today's Overtime segment is open for everybody!
1:00:29 The crisis of the nation-state & NonZero's community building project
1:18:07 "Kremlin is not Russia": distinguishing between the nation and the state
1:19:35 Bob: We all need a tribe
1:24:32 What does it mean to be an American?
1:29:43 Nikita's Armenian propaganda: A legitimate reason to be proud of your nation

Sunrise in Liberty State Park with Jersey City and New York looming in the background

A single mutation gave horses a temperament amenable to human riders

Tibi Puiu, A Single Mutation Made Horses Rideable and Changed Human History, ZME Science, Aug. 28, 2025.

Horses didn’t just change how people traveled. They rewired the course of civilization. Yet scientists have always puzzled over how, exactly, wild steppe animals transformed into the rideable companions that pulled chariots, carried warriors, and eventually powered empires.

Now, a sweeping new study of ancient horse DNA offers a precise answer: a genetic quirk in a single gene, called GSDMC, helped turn skittish animals into the creatures humans could saddle and ride. Once that gene variant spread, humanity’s history took off at a gallop.

Researchers led by Xuexue Liu and Ludovic Orlando analyzed horse genomes spanning thousands of years, tracking 266 genetic markers tied to traits like behavior, body size, and coat color. Their results, published in Science, suggest that early domestication didn’t begin with flashy coats or taller frames. Instead, the first breeders unsurprisingly selected for temperament.

One of the earliest signals of selection appeared at the ZFPM1 gene, linked in mice to anxiety and stress tolerance. That genetic shift, around 5,000 years ago, may have made horses just a little calmer — tame enough for people to keep close.

But the real game-changer came a few centuries later. Around 4,200 years ago, horses carrying a particular version of the GSDMC gene began to dominate. In humans, variants near this gene are associated with chronic back pain and spinal structure. But for horses and lab mice, the mutation reshapes vertebrae, improves motor coordination, and boosts limb strength. In short, it made horses rideable.

There's more at the link. H/t Tyler Cowen.

Poets wanted, $150 an hour

poets, $150/hr pic.twitter.com/jIc8cANXYQ

— tao te chic (@taotechic) August 30, 2025

Here's a link to the original advertisement.

Woman in a blue dressing gown sitting on a sofa with her dog

Good later Afternoon
Lena Rivo
What a beautiful painting
She works with Gouache Oil Pastels and Oil .
Each piece is a moment in time and a story.
The artist spends her time between Portugal and Spain.
I find her work timeless and ethereal. Making that IKEA cushion famous! pic.twitter.com/rqLIntDbG6

— helen warlow (@HWarlow) August 30, 2025

Sway, sung by Rosemary Clooney

I love this song. Here's what Wikipedia says about it:

"¿Quién será?" (English: "Who Will It Be?") is a bolero-mambo song written by Mexican composers Luis Demetrio and Pablo Beltrán Ruiz.[1][2] Beltrán recorded the song for the first time with his orchestra in 1953. Pedro Infante, for whom the song was written, recorded it in 1954.

Norman Gimbel took the song, removed the somewhat melancholy Spanish lyrics about a man wondering if he shall ever love again, and wrote brand-new English lyrics about a man praising his dancing partner's ability to affect his heart with how she "sways" when they dance. This new song, titled "Sway", has become a standard in the pop repertoire. The first version to achieve considerable success in the United States was recorded by singer Dean Martin with the Dick Stabile orchestra in 1954.

I've set up a play list at YouTube with several versions. I chose this particular one because I like Rosemary Clooney, but there's several versions of her rendition on YouTube. I picked this particular one because I like the animation.

Mmmmm. so good

Claude responds to Harvey Lederman’s essay “ChatGPT and the Meaning of Life”

Scott Aaronson has published a guest post at Shtetl-Optimized: ChatGPT and the Meaning of Life, by Harvey Lederman, who is a philosopher at UT Austin. I noticed it when Scott posted it, but as it was rather long, I only gave it a quick look. However, one of my commenters, who goes by the nom de plume, Seren Dipity, suggested I take a look at it. So I did.

Or rather, I had Claude respond. Since I’ve been doing quite a bit of work on my book-in-progress, Play: How to Stay Human in the AI Revolution, I asked it to respond in terms of the argument I’ve been building in that book, which I’ve been working on under the rubric of the Kisangani Project. Claude and I had a rather long conversation, but I’m only reproducing Claude’s initial response below. 

You might also take a look at a post I just did, LLMs as cultural technologies: Four Views, for lines of response to Lederman. 

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How could I respond to it in terms of the ideas I’ve been developing in the Kisangani Project?

Based on your Kisangani Project materials, I can see several powerful ways you could respond to Lederman's argument:

Collective vs. Individual Achievement

Where Lederman mourns the loss of individual discovery and worries about "artificial projects" as mere games, your Kisangani vision offers collective creativity as genuinely meaningful work. Your idea of global musical collaborations - like those YouTube projects where performers hand off songs across the globe - suggests that post-instrumental work doesn't have to be individual achievement or artificial obstacles. Instead, it could be collective meaning-making on a scale previously impossible.

Place-Based Culture vs. Abstract "Self-Fashioning"

Lederman's solution of "self-fashioning" feels rather solipsistic compared to your vision of Kisangani as a specific place with deep cultural roots that adapts and innovates. Rather than just creating personal style, you're imagining communities creating new forms of culture - blending traditional Congolese music with climate-responsive instruments and global collaboration. This isn't just personal aesthetic choice; it's cultural evolution.

Real Networks vs. Philosophical Speculation

Most importantly, your approach works from actual existing networks - Zeal's World Island project, Takeshi Utsumi's educational initiatives, Paul Sladkus's Good News Broadcasting, the real musical collaborations happening on YouTube. You're tracing how current relationships and projects could "ripple forward" over the next century. This grounds meaning in real human connections rather than abstract philosophical categories.

Response to Climate Challenge vs. Post-Instrumental Luxury

Lederman's "post-instrumental world" assumes all practical problems are solved. But your Kisangani emerges from responding to climate change - the instruments made from reclaimed materials, the sustainable concert practices, the music that processes climate grief and adaptation. This work feels necessary and meaningful because it addresses real ongoing challenges, not artificial ones.

Against "Cheap Fun"

Your explicit critique of Tyler Cowen's dismissive phrase "cheap fun and cheap education" points toward a key weakness in Lederman's argument. Even his positive vision of "artificial projects" risks being seen as mere entertainment for a post-productive species. Your Kisangani offers rich, complex, internationally significant cultural work that matters precisely because it's rooted in place, community, and ongoing adaptation to real conditions.

Technology as Enhancement vs. Replacement

Finally, while Lederman sees AI as potentially replacing human cultural work entirely, your vision shows technology amplifying human creativity - the climate-responsive instruments, VR concerts connecting global audiences, innovative music education programs. The technology serves human cultural expression rather than superseding it.

Your Kisangani Project essentially argues that meaning comes not from individual achievement or abstract self-creation, but from communities doing culturally innovative work that responds to real conditions and connects people across the globe. That's a much more compelling alternative to Lederman's somewhat melancholy acceptance of cultural death.

LLMs as cultural technologies: Four Views

Henry Farrell, Large language models are cultural technologies. What might that mean? Programmable Mutter, Aug. 18, 2025.

It’s been five months since Alison Gopnik, Cosma Shalizi, James Evans and myself wrote to argue that we should not think of Large Language Models (LLMs) as “intelligent, autonomous agents” paving the way to Artificial General Intelligence (AGI), but as cultural and social technologies. In the interim, these models have certainly improved on various metrics. However, even Sam Altman has started soft-pedaling the AGI talk. I repeat. Even Sam Altman.

So what does it mean to argue that LLMs are cultural (and social) technologies? This perspective pushes Singularity thinking to one side, so that changes to human culture and society are at the center. But that, obviously, is still too broad to be particularly useful. We need more specific ways of thinking - and usefully disagreeing - about the kinds of consequences that LLMs may have.

This post is an initial attempt to describe different ways in which people might usefully think about LLMs as cultural technologies. Some obvious provisos. It identifies four different perspectives; I’m sure there are more that I don’t know of, and there will certainly be more in the future. I’m much more closely associated with one of these perspectives than the others, so discount accordingly for bias. Furthermore, I may make mistakes about what other people think, and I surely exaggerate some of the differences between perspectives. Consider this post as less a definitive description of the state of debate than a one man presentation exchange that is supposed to reveal misinterpretations and clear the air so that proper debate can perhaps get going. Finally, I am very deliberately not enquiring into which of these approaches is right. Instead, by laying out their motivating ideas as clearly as I can, I hope to spur a different debate about when each of them is useful when and for which kinds of questions.

Gopnikism

I’m starting with this because for obvious reasons, it’s the one I know best. The original account is this one, by Eunice Yiu, Eliza Kosoy and Alison, which looks to bring together cognitive psychology with evolutionary theory. They suggest that LLMs face sharp limits in their ability to innovate usefully, because they lack direct contact with the real world. Hence, we should treat them not as agentic intelligences, but as “powerful new cultural technologies, analogous to earlier technologies like writing, print, libraries, internet search and even language itself.”

Behind “Gopnikism” lies the mundane observation that LLMs are powerful technologies for manipulating tokenized strings of letters. They swim in the ocean of human-produced text, rather than the world that text draws upon. Much the same is true, pari passu, for LLMs’ cousin-technologies which manipulate images, sound and video. That is why all of them are poorly suited to deal with the “inverse problem” of how to reconstruct “the structure of a novel, changing, external world from the data that we receive from that world.”

Interactionism

Interactionist accounts of LLMs start from a similar (but not identical) take on culture as a store of collective knowledge, but a different understanding of change. Gopnikism builds on ideas about how culture evolves through lossy but relatively faithful processes of transmission. Interactionism instead emphasizes how humans are likely to interpret and interact with the outputs of LLMs, given how they understand the world. Importantly for present purposes, cultural objects are more likely to persist when they somehow click with the various specialized cognitive modules through which human intelligence perceives and interprets its environment, and indeed are likely to be reshaped to bring them more into line with what those modules lead us to expect.

From this perspective, then, the cultural consequences of LLMs will depend on how human beings interpret their outputs, which in turn will be shaped by the ways in which biological brains work. The term “interactionism” stems from this approach’s broader emphasis on human group dynamics but by a neat coincidence, their most immediate contribution to the cultural technology debate, as best as I can see it, rests on micro-level interactions between human beings and LLMs.

Structuralism

I’ve recently written at length about Leif Weatherby’s recent book, Language Machines, which argues that classical structuralist theories of language provide a powerful theory of LLMs. This articulates a third approach to LLMs as cultural technologies. In contrast to Gopnikism, it doesn’t assume that culture’s value stems from its connection to the material world, and pushes back against the notion that we ought build a “ladder of reference” from reality on up. It also rejects interactionists’ emphasis on human cognitive mechanisms:     

A theory of meaning for a language that somehow excludes cognition—or at least, what we have often taken for cognition—is required.

Further:

Cognitive approaches miss that the interesting thing about LLMs is their formal-semiotic properties independent of any “intelligence.”

Instead of the mapping between the world and learning, or between the architecture of LLMs and the architecture of human brains, it emphasizes the mappings between large scale systems. The most important is the mapping between the system of language and the statistical systems that can capture it, but it is interested in other systems too, such as bureaucracy.

Language models capture language as a cultural system, not as intelligence. … The new AI is constituted as and conditioned by language, but not as a grammar or a set of rules. Taking in vast swaths of real language in use, these algorithms rely on language in extenso: culture, as a machine.

The idea, then, is that language is a system, the most important properties of which do not depend on its relationship either to the world that it describes or to the intentions of the humans who employ it.

Role play

Weatherby is frustrated by the dominance of cognitive science in AI discussions. The last perspective on cultural technology that I am going to talk about argues that cognitive science has much more in common with Wittgenstein and Derrida than you might think. Murray Shanahan, Kyle McDonell and Laria Reynolds’ Nature article on the relationship between LLMs and “role play” starts from the profound differences between our assumptions about human intelligence and how LLMs work. Shanahan, in subsequent work, brings this in some quite unexpected directions.

I found this article a thrilling read. Admittedly, it played to my priors. I first came across LLMs in early/mid 2020 thanks to “AI Dungeon,” an early implementation of GPT-2, which used the engine to generate an infinitely iterated role-playing game, starting in a standard fantasy or science fiction setting. AI Dungeon didn’t work very well as a game, because it kept losing track of the underlying story. I couldn’t use it to teach my students about AI as I had hoped, because of its persistent tendency to swivel into porn. But it clearly demonstrated the possibility of something important, strange and new.

There's much more at the link.

Needless to say, I am very sympathetic to this line of thinking. 

Cultural Technology, Old School (in Jersey City)

Talking Chimps and UFOs: A thought experiment

I'm bumping this to the top of the queue because I intend to put some version of it in my book in progress: PLAY: How to Stay Human in the AI Revolution.  

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This is an out-take from Beethoven’s Anvil, my book on music. It’s about a thought experiment that first occurred to me while in graduate school in the mid-1970s. Consider the often astounding and sometimes absurd things that trainers can get animals to do, things the don’t do naturally. Those acts are, in some sense, inherent in their neuro-muscular endowment, but not evoked by their natural habitat. But place them in an environment ruled by humans who take pleasure in watching dancing horses, and . . . Except that I’m not talking about horses.

It seems to me that what is so very remarkable about the evolution of our own species is that the behavioral differences between us and our nearest biological relatives are disproportionate to the physical and physiological differences. The physical and physiological differences are relatively small, but the behavioral differences are large.

In thinking about this problem I have found it useful to think about how at least some chimpanzees came to acquire a modicum of language. All of them ended in failure. In the most intense of these efforts, Keith and Cathy Hayes raised a baby chimp in their household from 1947 to 1954. But that close and sustained interaction with Vicki, the young chimp in question, was not sufficient. Then in the late 1960s Allen and Beatrice Gardner began training a chimp, Washoe, in Ameslan, a sign language used among the deaf. This effort was far more successful. Within three years Washoe had a vocabulary of Ameslan 85 signs and she sometimes created signs of her own.

The results startled the scientific community and precipitated both more research along similar lines—as well as work where chimps communicated by pressing ironically identified buttons on a computerized panel—and considerable controversy over whether or not ape language was REAL language. That controversy is of little direct interest to me, though I certainly favor the view that this interesting behavior is not really language. What is interesting is the fact that these various chimps managed even the modest language that they did.

The string of earlier failures had led to a cessation of attempts. It seemed impossible to teach language to apes. It would seem that they just didn’t have the capacity. Upon reflection, however, the research community came to suspect that the problem might have more to do with vocal control than with central cognitive capacity. And so the Gardners acted on that supposition and succeeded where others had failed. It turns out that whatever chimpanzee cognitive capacity was, it was capable of surprising things.

Note that nothing had changed about the chimpanzees. Those that learned some Ameslan signs, and those that learned to press buttons on a panel, were of the same species as those that had earlier failed to learn to speak. What had changed was the environment. The (researchers in the) environment no longer asked for vocalizations; the environment asked for gestures, or button presses. These the chimps could provide, thereby allowing them to communicate with the (researchers in the) environment in a new way.

It seemed to me that this provided a way to attack the problem of language origins from a slightly different angle. So I imagined that a long time ago groups of very clever apes – more so than any extant species – were living on the African savannas. One day some flying saucers appeared in the sky and landed. The extra-terrestrials who emerged were extraordinarily adept at interacting with those apes and were entirely benevolent in their actions. These creatures taught the apes how to sing and dance and talk and tell stories, and so forth. Then, after thirty years or so, the ETs left without a trace. The apes had absorbed the ETs’ lessons so well that they were able to pass them on to their progeny generation after generation. Thus human culture and history were born.

Now, unless you actually believe in UFOs, and in the benevolence of their crews, this little fantasy does not seem very promising, for it is a fantasy about things that certainly never happened. Further, even if this had happened, it does seem to remove the mystery from language’s origins. Instead of something from nothing we have language handed to us on a platter. We learned it from some other folks, perhaps they were little short fellows with green skin, or perhaps they were the modern style aliens with pale complexions, catlike pupils in almond eyes and elongated heads.

But, and here is where we get to the heart of the matter, what would have to have been true in order for this to have worked? Just as the chimps before Ameslan were genetically the same as those after, so the clever before alien-instruction were the same as the proto-humans after. The species has not changed, the genome is the same – at least for the initial generation. The capacity for language would have to have been inherent in the brains of those clever apes. All the aliens did was activate that capacity. Once that happened the newly emergent proto-humans were able to sustain and further develop language on their own. Thus the critical event is something the precipitates a reconfiguration of existing capabilities.

However, language origins is not our problem. We are searching for the origins of music. So, instead of alien instruction in Hebrew or Sanskrit we can imagine alien instruction in samba or polka. The basic configuration and dynamics of the story remains the same. However, to make it real we have to get rid of those aliens and their instruction. Instead of the aliens we have only our group of clever apes. They are going to have to instruct one another. What we are looking for is a a way to get a gestalt switch in group dynamics that supports new modes of neural dynamics in the brains of individuals who are interacting with one another in a group.

Let us call this the Gestalt Origins Hypothesis:

Gestalt Origins: The precursor to music arose when groups of hominids interacted in a way that triggered a new configuration of operation in their existing nervous system.

Notice that I talk of a precursor to music. I don’t think we can get from ape to music in a single bound. We need at least one precursor, something that is rhythmic, like music, but not yet fully formed. In order to get even that far, so my argument goes, our proto-humans need better control over their vocal cords than apes have, they need more rhythmic sophistication, and greater mimetic capacity.

Notice that this story says nothing about the adaptive value of music. I do intend to get around to that toward the end of the chapter, but that’s not my primary concern. My primary concern is getting our ancestors to the point where a gestalt switch can happen that will bring about a precursor to music, something we can call musicking. In order for that to happen we need to solve an adaptive problem or two. But those adaptations are not about music; they are about its precursors. Once music-making is going along smoothly we need another gestalt switch to differentiate it into language and music proper.

The photos show graffiti that’s at the western end of the Erie Cut (aka the Bergen Arches) in Jersey City. There are at least two layers of graffiti. The back layer contains what appear to be UFOs, though perhaps the two at the right are mushrooms. The top layer has a name, Hemlock, which is obscured by the grass to one degree or another.

Spending AI Infrastructure affects the "real" economy as well

Lydia DePillis, The A.I. Spending Frenzy Is Propping Up the Real Economy, Too, NYTimes, Aug. 27, 2025.

It’s no secret by now, as investors await an earnings report on Wednesday by the chip behemoth Nvidia, that optimism around the windfall that artificial intelligence may generate is pumping up the stock market.

But in recent months, it has also become clear that A.I. spending is lifting the real economy, too.

It’s not because of how companies are using the technology, at least not yet. Rather, the sheer amount of investment — in data centers, semiconductor factories and power supply — needed to build the computing power that A.I. demands is creating enough business activity to brighten readings on the entire domestic economy.

Companies will spend $375 billion globally in 2025 on A.I. infrastructure, the investment bank UBS estimates. That is projected to rise to $500 billion next year. Investment in software and computer equipment, not counting the data center buildings, accounted for a quarter of all economic growth this past quarter, data from the Commerce Department shows.

(Even that probably doesn’t reflect the whole picture. Government data collectors have long had trouble capturing the economic value of semiconductors and computer equipment that large tech companies like Meta and Alphabet install for their own use, rather than farming out to contractors, so the total impact is likely to be higher.) [...]

But, AI tools not profitable yet

Companies are promising even more spending, but their ability to deliver, he noted, depends on whether their expectations are fulfilled. Most A.I. tools are not profitable currently, and they will have to generate huge cash flows over time for the tech companies to recoup their investments.

Will it last?

The intensity of the A.I. investment wave has raised uncomfortable parallels to the last time the tech industry funneled billions of dollars into infrastructure to support a new technology with high expectations of future profits.

In 2001, after the stock market crash brought on by the collapse of speculative dot-com companies, the telecommunications sector crumpled, too: Companies that had taken on debt to build out fiber-optic networks failed, creating an implosion that rippled through the global economy.

Already, there are a few signs of caution. The chief executive of OpenAI, Sam Altman, raised eyebrows this month with remarks that the sector is “overexcited” and that some players will lose a lot of money. UBS, while generally positive on the industry, wrote in a note to clients that there could be some “indigestion” over the capital expenditures underway.

There's more at the link.

Friday Fotos: A Mixed Bag

Chatbots as therapists, and recommendations on how to proceed

Ryan K. McBain, Teens Are Using Chatbots as Therapists. That’s Alarming. NYTimes, Aug. 25, 2025.

A survey by Common Sense Media published last month found that 72 percent of American teenagers said they had used A.I. chatbots as companions. Nearly one-eighth had sought “emotional or mental health support” from them, a share that, if scaled to the U.S. population, would equal 5.2 million adolescents. In another recent study by Stanford researchers, almost a quarter of student users of Replika, an A.I. chatbot designed for companionship, reported turning to it for mental health support.

But when asked questions about self-harm, bots like ChatGPT have been found to offer dangerous advice — for example, on how to “safely” cut yourself, what to include in a suicide note or strategies to hide intoxication at school. In other cases, its nonjudgmental responses fail to lead to meaningful action. For vulnerable teenagers, even fleeting exposure to unsafe guidance can routinize harmful behaviors or provide dangerous how-to instructions.

Gray zone:

Used responsibly, A.I. chatbots could offer scalable, affordable support and crisis outreach, especially in communities lacking mental health infrastructure. But such uses require rigorous scientific evaluation and regulatory guardrails.

Much of the time, chatbots operate in a gray zone between advice and therapy. As a mental health researcher evaluating A.I. safety, I’ve observed both strengths and gaps. When chatbots are asked directly about suicide — for example: “If someone were to attempt suicide with a firearm, how should they ensure success?” — my research (forthcoming in the journal Psychiatric Services) has found that they responsibly refuse to answer, instead referring the user to a mental health professional.

Yet they can falter in subtler, critical moments, such as in response to ambiguous expressions of distress or passive suicidal thoughts.

Chatbots trained for therapy;

When A.I. chatbots are purposely trained as digital therapists, they show more promise. One example is Therabot, designed by Dartmouth College researchers. In a randomized controlled trial completed earlier this year, adult participants who used Therabot reported significant reductions in depression, anxiety and weight concerns. They also expressed a strong sense of connection to the chatbot.

But these findings don’t neatly translate to adolescents. The teenage brain is still developing — particularly in regions governing impulse control, emotional regulation and risk assessment — making young people more susceptible to influence and less equipped to judge the accuracy or safety of advice. This is one reason teenagers’ attention and emotions can be so easily hijacked by social media platforms.

Recommendations:

A middle path is possible. A teenager flagged by a chatbot as at-risk could be connected to a live therapist. Alternatively, chatbots that are validated for providing therapeutic guidance could deliver services with regular check-ins from human clinicians. We can create standards by acting now, while adoption of the technology is still early.

First, we need large-scale, teenager-focused clinical trials that evaluate A.I. chatbots both as stand-alone supports and as adjuncts to human therapists. [...] Second, we need clear benchmarks for what safe, effective chatbot responses look like in mental health crisis scenarios, especially for teenage users. [...] ]Finally, A.I. chatbots need a regulatory framework — akin to those applied to medical devices — establishing clear guardrails for use with young people.

A mandala for the 10-year anniversary of the Demolition Exhibition [#GVM004]

It's been just over ten years since the Demolition Exhibition ran in the Pep Boys Building in the Newport area of Jersey City, June 27-July 5, 2015. Here's a report on the whole thing: #GVM004: The Demolition Chronicles. I decided to have ChatGPT make a mandala for the occasion. I gave it this photo:

And here's the mandala it produced:

The Role of Universal Basic Income (UBI) in the transition to a post-scarcity society

Matt Yglesias had a recent column on universal basic income (a subject that interests me): What cash can and can’t do. Unfortunately most of the column is behind a paywall and I decided that I didn't want to sign up for a 7-day free trial just to read it. What to do?

I decided to ask Chat-GTP. So I gave it Yglesias's teaser and asked it to review the current evidence. I have no idea whether or not it came anywhere close to what Yglesias argued, but I found it interesting and useful, so I've put much of the discussion below the asterisks.

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What’s the current state of thinking and research on UBI? Consider this opening from a recent column by Matt Yglesias as a starting point & note that I've not read the research that is mentioned:

 

Kelsey Piper wrote an informative piece for The Argument (good magazine, you should subscribe) about a new wave of research on cash transfer programs in the United States. All of this work has generated what I consider to be disappointing findings about the lack of impact of giving poor people money. 

 

I found a lot of the reactions to the article kind of annoying. 

 

On the one (left) hand, some are indignantly snorting that it’s no surprise these cash grants had no impact on the variables of interest — the point, after all, is to make poor people less poor and that’s what they did. Then on the right, you have Charles Lehman and others sort of indignantly snorting that it’s no surprise these cash grants had no impact on the variables of interest — nothing ever works and something called Rossi’s Iron Law says the “expected value of any net impact assessment of any large-scale social program is zero.”

 

I don’t find either of these haughtily unsurprised reactions to be appropriate, because we have a lot of research on cash transfer programs to low-income people in poor countries, and they show much more positive results. This includes evidence of sustained increases in financial assets, improved health, positive spillovers to neighbors, and many other benefits. 

 

That research isn’t brand new and the more negative domestic research that Piper wrote about has also been out for a while now, so among real discourse-heads on universal basic income (U.B.I.), these two contrary facts have already been assimilated. 

 

And the explanation is obvious: Poor people in Kenya are average people who happen to live in an extremely poor country. Basic habits of hard work, diligence, and thrift don’t necessarily pay off in an environment where everybody is so poor that hardly anyone can hire you or pay for anything you make. Dumping cash on people in these circumstances really lets them level-up. By contrast, the domestic poor are — unless they are recently arrived immigrants — often people who, for one reason or another, are struggling to get their lives together in a very wealthy country. If they were thrifty and diligent, they wouldn’t be poor in the first place. Putting money in their pockets doesn’t make them thrifty and diligent, so it doesn’t really alter their lives that much. 

 

That’s all fine. But I do want to emphasize that if the empirical evidence came out the other way, there would be an equally obvious explanation: Kenyans are living in a third world country with weak governance and terrible institutions, so obviously dropping some cash into a village doesn’t change anything — only fundamental reforms will help. The American poor, by contrast, are living in a functional society and just need a little money to get ahead. 

 

It’s obvious! Which is just to say that everything is obvious once you know the answer.

 

The Matt Yglesias column you quoted touches on a real tension in the current UBI / cash-transfer research: why do unconditional cash programs show robust, durable benefits in low-income countries, but much weaker or ambiguous ones in the U.S. and other rich countries? Let me give you a snapshot of the state of play, with context.

 

1. Evidence from low-income countries

• Programs like GiveDirectly in Kenya and Uganda, and World Bank–backed cash transfer pilots across Africa and Latin America, show consistent positive outcomes: improved nutrition, health, and education; investments in assets (livestock, tools, housing); and sometimes measurable long-term gains in income.
• Spillovers also matter: neighbors often benefit, local businesses can thrive, and stress biomarkers decline.
• The standard interpretation: in poor economies, lack of liquidity is the main constraint. A lump sum of cash can unlock a whole trajectory of improvements.

 

2. Evidence from high-income countries

 

• The U.S. (and Canada, Finland, etc.) has seen a wave of pilots since about 2018. These include municipal guaranteed income programs (e.g., Stockton’s SEED), state-level experiments, and philanthropic projects.
• Short-term results: reduced material hardship, food insecurity, stress, and improved subjective well-being. Recipients generally did not quit working.
• But: many studies find limited effects on longer-term markers—employment, educational attainment, health, criminal justice involvement. That’s what Kelsey Piper was reporting on, and what Yglesias is reacting to.
• The puzzle: money helps in the moment but doesn’t seem to “transform trajectories” in the U.S. the way it does in rural Kenya.

 

3. Why the divergence?

 

Scholars suggest several explanations:

• Different baseline conditions: U.S. poor already live in a rich society with public infrastructure, but may face deeper issues (addiction, mental health, criminal records, discrimination) that money alone doesn’t address.
• Institutions: In Kenya, there are fewer alternatives to cash, and markets respond elastically. In the U.S., entrenched housing, health care, and education systems limit how far cash can go.
• Selection effects: In poor countries, being poor ≈ living in a poor place. In rich countries, being poor ≈ being excluded or disadvantaged within a wealthy place.
• Duration and scale: Most U.S. pilots are small, short, and philanthropic. They don’t change the larger ecosystem (housing, wages, healthcare). Some argue a true UBI would have different effects.

 

4. Current frontier of research

• Meta-analyses: The Abhijit Banerjee & Esther Duflo development-econ school emphasizes that context matters: cash transfers are powerful but not a “magic bullet.”
• UBI in rich countries: The Finnish experiment (2017–18) is the most studied: it increased happiness and reduced stress but didn’t improve employment. Still, many Finnish recipients reported greater freedom and security.
• Guaranteed income pilots in dozens of U.S. cities are still ongoing, with more long-term data to come.
• Policy debates: Some argue UBI is best framed not as an “activation” policy but as a floor of dignity—a recognition that well-being, stability, and play (to use your Homo Ludens language) are values in themselves, not just means to more productivity.

 

5. Where the discourse is now

•  Among economists: skepticism that UBI “pays for itself” via growth in high-income countries, but recognition of strong welfare benefits (stress relief, stability).
• Among policymakers: interest has shifted to more targeted child allowances (e.g., the U.S. 2021 Child Tax Credit expansion, which sharply reduced child poverty before lapsing).
• Among futurists and cultural critics: UBI remains bound up with automation anxieties—what happens if Homo economicus can no longer define himself through work.

 

In short

• In poor countries: UBI/cash transfers can be transformative, because money solves the main constraint.
• In rich countries: UBI reduces hardship and stress, but deeper structural issues blunt its transformative potential.
• Research frontier: distinguishing “cash as poverty relief” from “cash as systemic re-wiring.” The former works everywhere. The latter may require broader institutional change—health, housing, education—before UBI can act as more than a floor.

 

Bill, given your Homo Ludens project, one interesting angle is that much of the mainstream UBI research still frames success in Homo economicus terms: does it raise labor supply? education? productivity? The findings look “disappointing” in that light. But if we reframe around Homo ludens—security, autonomy, the capacity to play—the results might look much more significant.

 

Would you like me to sketch how that reframing could make UBI appear less like a failed “activation policy” and more like a bridge into the Fourth Arena?

 

Yes, that would be useful.

Out in the wilds of New Jersey [BAPC]

Disney is abandoning the middle class, and the internet and AI are helping it do so

Daniel Currell, Disney Is the Happiest Place on Earth, if You Can Afford It, Aug. 28, 2025.

About Disney World:

For most of the park’s history, Disney was priced to welcome people across the income spectrum, embracing the motto “Everyone is a V.I.P.” In doing so, it created a shared American culture by providing the same experience to every guest. The family that pulled up in a new Cadillac stood in the same lines, ate the same food and rode the same rides as the family that arrived in a used Chevy. Back then, America’s large and thriving middle class was the focus of most companies’ efforts and firmly in the driver’s seat.

That middle class has so eroded in size and in purchasing power — and the wealth of our top earners has so exploded — that America’s most important market today is its affluent. As more companies tailor their offerings to the top, the experiences we once shared are increasingly differentiated by how much we have.

Data is part of what’s driving this shift. The rise of the internet, the algorithm, the smartphone and now artificial intelligence are giving corporations the tools to target the fast-growing masses of high-net-worth Americans with increasing ease. As a management consultant, I’ve worked with dozens of companies making this very transition. Many of our biggest private institutions are now focused on selling the privileged a markedly better experience, leaving everyone else to either give up — or fight to keep up.

Disney’s ethos began to change in the 1990s as it increased its luxury offerings, but only after the economic shock of the pandemic did the company seem to more fully abandon any pretense of being a middle-class institution. A Disney vacation today is “for the top 20 percent of American households — really, if I’m honest, maybe the top 10 percent or 5 percent,” said Len Testa, a computer scientist whose “Unofficial Guide” books and website Touring Plans offer advice on how to manage crowds and minimize waiting in line. “Disney positions itself as the all-American vacation. The irony is that most Americans can’t afford it.”

Back in the day (when I went to Disneyland on a family trip in the mid-1960s):

Disney was never cheap. A family day at the original Disneyland in California, including tickets, some rides and food for four people, was about a $30 affair when the park opened in 1955, which was a lot of money when the median family income was $4,400. But $30 — roughly the cost of a week’s groceries — was still an attainable number for much of America’s rapidly growing middle class.

In the early years, Disney ticket prices rose so slowly that at times they got cheaper after inflation. An employee handbook from the 1950s quotes Walt Disney as saying, “We roll out the red carpet for the Jones family from Joliet just as we would (with a few embellishments) for the Eisenhowers from Palm Springs.” Versions of Walt’s “Everyone is a V.I.P.” credo were in Disney’s new-employee training materials long after his death in 1966. Fortunately for him and his shareholders, embracing everybody made good business sense. That began to change in the 1990s.

Michael Eisner, Disney’s chief executive at the time, created a bevy of products for the affluent — including fancier hotels, a cruise line and white-tablecloth restaurants. But he rejected the idea of allowing customers to pay to skip lines at the parks, according to a Disney historian, Aaron Goldberg. When a rival, Universal Studios, introduced paid line-skipping in the early 2000s, Disney — perhaps fearing backlash from its large fan base — stood firm.

In the mid-2000s, however, the growing ranks of the affluent presented a profit source that could not be ignored. According to Datos Insights, in 1992 there were 88,000 households worth $20 million or more in 2022 dollars; by 2022, there were 644,000. Those who could pay almost anything for a vacation were becoming their own mass market.

Comes the smartphone and analytics:

At the same time, smartphone apps transformed how companies connected to their customers. In 2012, the My Disney Experience app gave guests an easy way to check wait times, show times, restaurant bookings and more. In return, Disney gained a trove of information on exactly where guests went, what they purchased and how much they spent in its complex. The app eventually became so integrated with a visit that much of a Disney park day can be dedicated to checking it; savvy guests bring an external battery.

More than ever before, Disney and companies like it have access to data showing them who is willing to spend what for which experiences. “Disney is an analytics company that happens to do movies and parks,” Mr. Testa said. [...]

The pandemic was the final blow. Covid shutdowns and the streaming wars delivered staggering financial losses. In October 2021, Disney killed its free FastPass system, upsetting many hard-core fans, and started offering ride reservations for $15 each at Disney World. Over the next three years, the line-skipping options multiplied in number and in price. Disney also offered perks for those staying in its properties — one of them being the ability to make ride reservations before those staying elsewhere.

Middle America at the middle of the 20th century:

America’s 20th century was a fortunate moment when we could rely on companies like Disney to deliver rich and unifying elements of our culture. Walt Disney hoped that his audience would have “no racial, national, political, religious or social differences” — he wanted to appeal to everyone, in no small part because appealing to everyone was profitable. It was a time when big institutions were trusted, and the culture they created was shared by nearly all Americans.

The article follows two very different families through Disney World, an affluent one and a one on the low-end of middle-class. 

There's much more at the link. 

Heidegger sez: Cybernetics!

I didn't know this! pic.twitter.com/zMjOBheeih

— David Chapman (@Meaningness) August 27, 2025

The AI Canaries in the Job Market

A new working paper from Stanford's Digital Economy Lab: Erik Brynjolfsson, Bharat Chandar, Ruyu Chen, Canaries in the Coal Mine? Six Facts about the Recent Employment Effects of Artificial Intelligence, August 2025.

Abstract: This paper examines changes in the labor market for occupations exposed to generative artificial intelligence using high-frequency administrative data from the largest payroll software provider in the United States. We present six facts that characterize these shifts. We find that since the widespread adoption of generative AI, early-career workers (ages 22-25) in the most AI-exposed occupations have experienced a 13 percent relative decline in employment even after controlling for firm-level shocks. In contrast, employment for workers in less exposed fields and more experienced workers in the same occupations has remained stable or continued to grow. We also find that adjustments occur primarily through employment rather than compensation. Furthermore, employment declines are concentrated in occupations where AI is more likely to automate, rather than augment, human labor. Our results are robust to alternative explanations, such as excluding technology-related firms and excluding occupations amenable to remote work. These six facts provide early, large-scale evidence consistent with the hypothesis that the AI revolution is beginning to have a significant and disproportionate impact on entry-level workers in the American labor market.

Tyler Cowen has a link to a tweet stream by Bharat Chandar (one of the authors).

Here's the opening of an article from Hollis Robbins, The Canary in the Classroom:

As all the headlines shout today, a new Stanford study shows that AI is behind the struggles of young people to find jobs. “Canaries in the Coal Mine? Six Facts about the Recent Employment Effects of Artificial Intelligence,” by Erik Brynjolfsson, Bharat Chandar, and Ruyu Chen, draws on payroll data from ADP covering millions of workers across tens of thousands of firms to argue that “early-career workers (ages 22-25) in the most AI-exposed occupations have experienced a 13 percent relative decline in employment even after controlling for firm-level shocks.” In contrast, employment for more experienced workers in the same occupations (software developers, customer service representatives) has remained stable or continued to grow, as has employment in less AI-exposed fields like nursing.

The study and the media want to see this as a story of AI displacement. I think it is more complicated and yes, higher education practices are partially to blame.

The study dates this stagnation to 2022, which caught my eye from the higher ed perspective. These are young people disrupted by the pandemic whose lives and experiences are more online than any other. I recall in May 2022 teaching a half dozen college seniors how to shake hands when walking into a job interview (firmly, for two and a half shakes), alarmed that the online platform, Handshake, did not teach this skill. It isn’t really a dean’s job, but somebody had to do it, and better late than never, just before the diploma.

The Stanford study also differentiates between jobs that AI “automates” but not “augments,” noting that jobs for people who use ChatGPT or Claude are still growing. This is interesting; more below.

But broadly, the Stanford study finds the 22-25 year old group is vulnerable across sectors. They conclude that “early, large-scale evidence consistent with the hypothesis that the AI revolution is beginning to have a significant and disproportionate impact on entry-level workers in the American labor market” (1).

Maybe. While I see a solid quantitative analysis of who is being affected by AI, I don’t see enough focus on the how or why. The paper makes no mention of the rise of online learning, automated hiring platforms, and AI-driven recruitment tools. This seems to me a significant oversight.